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MEGAMONS

Mega-mons is an unique metagame for three reasons. The first one is that it does not change the mechanics of any moves, items, abilities or how any pokemon get those. The second is that it is based off of the Ubers metagame, and not the OU one. The third major difference is that it allows mega evolutionas to be used without their mega stones, and for multiple mega evolutions to be used on the same team.




RULES:
- You can use multiple mega evolutions.
- You can use mega evolutions without megastones
- Mewtwo-Mega X, Mewtwo-Mega Y, and Gengar-Mega are banned. - The Mewtwos' stats were good enough that there was no reason not to run them, and Gengar - Mega's mere presence on a team was enough to force you to pick all your moves based on it.
- Moody is banned
- Standard Ubers clauses.
- Mega Lucario, Mega Blaziken and Arceus are suspect, Mega Lucario due to the sheer amount of power and versatility it brings to the table, Blaziken because of speed boost letting it get past almost any revenge killer, and it's insane attack getting it past any wall, and Arceus due to the fact that it has base 120/all stats, the ability to become any type and an insanely wide movepool.


POTENTIAL SETS:
Pinsir - Mega @ Choice Band
Adamant Nature
Trait: Aerilate
Evs: 4 Hp / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
- Quick Attack
- Thrash / Return
- Close Combat
- Earthquake / Thrash / Return

Pinsir is a major threat in this metagame, due to the sheer power of it's stabs. The damage output of it is wonderful, allowing it to 2hko such bulky pokemon as fully physically invested groudon, while still maintaining quite a bit of speed. Thrash is it's strongest move, but as it keeps Pinsir from switching, return is a viable option over it. Earthquake is slashed in with it's stab moves in case of if you want to run two stabs. Quick attack is necessary as it allows you to kill the many fighting type threats of the tier with a strong priority move.

(I have more threat ideas, but I want to leave it up to the community to post them, so that I don't limit people's ideas by imposing mine on them. I will post other peoples' sets here, though.)

So go out, and have fun with mega-evolutions.

(ps: I know about the micrometa, I came up with this idea before I saw the thread, but I think a full scaled metagame would be a lot different than that, and would also get quite a bit more attention.)
 
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SpartanMalice

Y'all jokers must be crazy
At first I thought it was gonna be my petmod finally accepted, but this still sounds pretty fun.

Are we limited to the amount of suspects we use or anything ?
 
Don't forget Mega-Lucario, which can now use Life Orb.

+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Adaptability Mega Lucario Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Hippowdon: 517-611 (123 - 145.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Mega Lucario Crunch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Cresselia: 343-406 (77.2 - 91.4%) -- 25% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Adaptability Mega Lucario Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Ferrothorn: 962-1133 (273.2 - 321.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Adaptability Mega Lucario Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 188+ Def Eviolite Ferroseed: 676-796 (295.1 - 347.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Adaptability Mega Lucario Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Mega Tyranitar: 1913-2256 (473.5 - 558.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Adaptability Mega Lucario Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Filter Mega Aggron: 511-604 (148.5 - 175.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Adaptability Mega Lucario Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Venusaur: 338-399 (92.8 - 109.6%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Adaptability Mega Lucario Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 232+ Def Skarmory: 465-549 (139.2 - 164.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Mega Lucario Crunch vs. 248 HP / 8 Def Eviolite Dusclops: 286-338 (101 - 119.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Adaptability Mega Lucario Bullet Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aurorus: 1414-1674 (314.2 - 372%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Adaptability Mega Lucario Bullet Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mamoswine: 650-769 (153.3 - 181.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Adaptability Mega Lucario Bullet Punch vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Arceus-Ice: 380-447 (85.5 - 100.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
+2 252+ Atk Adaptability Mega Lucario Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Groudon: 388-458 (96 - 113.3%) -- 75% chance to OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Mega Lucario Crunch vs. 252 HP / 176+ Def Lugia: 262-310 (62.9 - 74.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery (3HKO through Multiscale, while you outspeed and are 5HKOed by max SpA Ice Beam)
+2 252+ Atk Adaptability Mega Lucario Close Combat vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Cobalion: 996-1176 (307.4 - 362.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Adaptability Mega Lucario Close Combat vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Virizion: 816-960 (251.8 - 296.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Adaptability Mega Lucario Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Metagross: 496-584 (136.2 - 160.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Mega Lucario Crunch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Bronzong: 366-432 (108.2 - 127.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Mega Lucario Crunch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Latias: 452-534 (149.6 - 176.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Adaptability Mega Lucario Bullet Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Sylveon: 588-696 (149.2 - 176.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Adaptability Mega Lucario Bullet Punch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Xerneas: 432-512 (109.6 - 129.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Adaptability Mega Lucario Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 1648-1940 (234 - 275.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Adaptability Mega Lucario Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Porygon2: 904-1068 (241.7 - 285.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Adaptability Mega Lucario Close Combat vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Zygarde: 528-622 (147.4 - 173.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Adaptability Mega Lucario Bullet Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar: 499-593 (123.5 - 146.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Mega Lucario Crunch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Shedinja: 1001-1178 (100100 - 117800%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Mega Lucario Crunch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Reuniclus: 468-551 (110.3 - 129.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Mega Lucario Crunch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Musharna: 619-728 (165.9 - 195.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Adaptability Mega Lucario Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Shuckle: 341-403 (139.7 - 165.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Adaptability Mega Lucario Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Wailord: 1009-1188 (185.4 - 218.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Adaptability Mega Lucario Bullet Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Goodra: 364-429 (94.7 - 111.7%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Adaptability Mega Lucario Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Ampharos: 775-912 (201.8 - 237.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Adaptability Mega Lucario Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252 Def 150/150 Custom(Grass): 478-564 (94.8 - 111.9%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO

Don't forget that I forgot Life Orb for some calcs.
 
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FUCK YEAH MKHAN LET'S DO THIS

Kangakhan-Mega @ Leftovers/Life Orb/Silk Scarf/Whatever the fuck you want
Adamant Nature
Trait: Parental Bond
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
- Power-up Punch
- Crunch
- Return
- Sucker Punch

gg

On a serious note, I was expecting there to be no bans since Uber and all, but oh well =/
 

SpartanMalice

Y'all jokers must be crazy
On a serious note, I was expecting there to be no bans since Uber and all, but oh well =/
Yeah that's what I thought as well. I'm not so sure about gengar (still has the perishtrap niche), but the mewtwos are definitely powerful. I mean, their 780 BST is higher than even Arceus. They would just devastate the meta, so it's fair enough.
 
I don't see why arceus needs to be suspect, it isn't top usage or the most broken mon or even banned in the official ubers tier, so it'll be far from those things in a metagame filled with Megas running choice items and life orb.

Nonetheless, sounds fun but totally centralising, which I guess isn't a bad thing in this case!
 

Monte Cristo

Banned deucer.
I don't see why arceus needs to be suspect, it isn't top usage or the most broken mon or even banned in the official ubers tier, so it'll be far from those things in a metagame filled with Megas running choice items and life orb.

Nonetheless, sounds fun but totally centralising, which I guess isn't a bad thing in this case!
Correction: It's really the best uber or one of the best pokemon ever due to it having 17 forms and all of them bar arc psych being good
 

Albacore

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FUCK YEAH MKHAN LET'S DO THIS

Kangakhan-Mega @ Leftovers/Life Orb/Silk Scarf/Whatever the fuck you want
Adamant Nature
Trait: Parental Bond
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
- Power-up Punch
- Crunch
- Return
- Sucker Punch

gg

On a serious note, I was expecting there to be no bans since Uber and all, but oh well =/
If you're going to ban anything, surely you should ban this thing. It can run its RestTalk set with Lefties now. That's pretty broken.
I don't really get the Arceus suspect. That would be like suspecting Kyogre. If you're going to base this meta on Ubers, Arceus should be allowed.

Then again, if this metagame was really based on Ubers, everything would be allowed, so maybe we should impose some limitations.
 
Kangaskhan-Mega @ Leftovers
Careful Nature (idk?)
Trait: Parental Bond
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Seismic Toss
- Crunch

Alternatively, Wish + Seismic Toss.

How exactly "good" is M2X and M2Y compared to the others anyway? Are there any replays whatsoever beyond "fuck this (BAN ME PLEASE) has 60 more stat points than arceus let's instaban"
 
Tyranitar-Mega@Assault Vest
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 Atk/252 SDef/4 HP
Adamant Nature
-Stone Edge
-Crunch
-Earthquake
-Pursuit

252+ SpA Choice Specs Kyogre Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 4 HP / 252 SpD Assault Vest Mega Tyranitar in Sand: 278-330 (81.2 - 96.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 

Albacore

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Banded Mega-Scizor looks great. Pretty much the Uber version of regular Scizor.

Mega-Heracross can finally use a Scarf, and Mega-Pinsir can go banded.

Mega-Houndoom can finally abuse Sun alongside Groudon and Mega-Charizard Y.

Choice Band Mega-Mawile and Choice Scarf Mega-Medicham. That is all.
 
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Monte Cristo

Banned deucer.
Kangaskhan-Mega @ Leftovers
Careful Nature (idk?)
Trait: Parental Bond
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Seismic Toss
- Crunch

Alternatively, Wish + Seismic Toss.

How exactly "good" is M2X and M2Y compared to the others anyway? Are there any replays whatsoever beyond "fuck this (BAN ME PLEASE) has 60 more stat points than arceus let's instaban"
Mega Mewtwo X Set:
@ Life Orb 252 Atk/4 Sdef/252 speed ThunderPunch|Ice Punch|Drain Punch| Zen Headbutt
252 Atk Life Orb Mega Mewtwo X Ice Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Groudon: 213-252 (52.7 - 62.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Life Orb Mega Mewtwo X Ice Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Giratina: 244-289 (48.4 - 57.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Life Orb Mega Mewtwo X Ice Punch vs. 252 HP / 176+ Def Lugia: 179-213 (43 - 51.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery (SR breaks multiscale)
252 Atk Life Orb Mega Mewtwo X Drain Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Arceus: 367-432 (82.6 - 97.2%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
252 Atk Life Orb Mega Mewtwo X Psycho Cut vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Xerneas: 208-246 (52.7 - 62.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252 Atk Life Orb Mega Mewtwo X Thunder Punch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Kyogre: 309-367 (90.3 - 107.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
however this set does get walled by things like deo-d:
252 Atk Life Orb Mega Mewtwo X Thunder Punch vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Deoxys-D: 95-112 (31.2 - 36.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock

there's also other sets like bulk up and subpunch that stall out deo-d or set up on it

Mega Mewtwo Y Set:
@ Life Orb 252 SAtk/4 Sdef/252 speed Psystrike|Fire Blast|Thunderbolt/Ice Beam/Shadow Ball| Aura Sphere
252 SpA Life Orb Mega Mewtwo Y Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Deoxys-D: 140-166 (46 - 54.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252 SpA Life Orb Mega Mewtwo Y Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Groudon in Sun: 346-407 (85.6 - 100.7%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
252 SpA Life Orb Mega Mewtwo Y Psystrike vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Giratina: 247-292 (49 - 57.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Life Orb Mega Mewtwo Y Psystrike vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 382-450 (54.2 - 63.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252 SpA Life Orb Mega Mewtwo Y Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 80 SpD Lugia: 226-268 (54.3 - 64.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Life Orb Mega Mewtwo Y Psystrike vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Kyogre: 316-372 (92.3 - 108.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
252 SpA Life Orb Mega Mewtwo Y Psystrike vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Reshiram: 289-341 (71.5 - 84.4%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
(not to mention psystrike gets around assault vest)

Overall, these 2 can even sport other sets like specs, banded, sub punch/subCM/subBU etc. And are extremely hard to stop once they get their hands on an item, not ot mention they have the speed of electrode/jolteon respectively.
 
I remember bringing this up in OM chat on PS the other day, only in that I mentioned ONLY Megas could be allowed. Looks like some other people thought of this too. Anyway, will this be installed?
So I have an Idea: Choice Specs Mega-Charizard-Y. Calcs:
252 SpA Choice Specs Mega Charizard Y Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Eviolite Chansey in Sun: 301-355 (42.7 - 50.4%) -- 96.1% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252 SpA Choice Specs Mega Charizard Y Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Blissey in Sun: 363-427 (50.8 - 59.8%) -- 85.9% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Nope. Not at all going to hurt. Also, Mega-Blaziken is countered by ^ and to an extent Blastoise-Mega. Also, Pinsir-Mega checking it, along with standard counters Talonflame and Azumarill, lets it not seem too broken to me. To address Lucario, Bannette, Charizard-Y, and Venusaur counter it, but it is still a little broken. Arceus NEEDS to be banned. Also, Kangaskhan needs suspected, in my opinion. To sum it up, Arceus: BAN; Lucarionite:Unsure; Blaziken/nite: NO BAN; Kangaskhanite: Needs to be suspected. Also, AV Mega-Tyranitar in sand sounds bulky.
 
Well, the biggest issue with Mega Blaziken is the Sub set, as it's capable of bypassing priority and koing one of it's counters.
 

Pikachuun

the entire waruda machine
Yes there is. Read what he wrote carefully and then read the op and the micro meta lol
Well, technically mega cup and megamons aren't the same. Mega Cup ONLY allows MEvos, while MegaMons allows Ubers and MEvos. Not the same thing...
 
I know, I thought of this, then I saw the micro-meta and thought I wouldn't be able to do it (was a while ago), but I decided to try, and Joim was fine with it.
 

Monte Cristo

Banned deucer.
No there isn't. Read the micro metagame more carefully, then read what this meta does with the same amount of care.
He's referring to the guy's idea not burgerking's idea

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I remember bringing this up in OM chat on PS the other day, only in that I mentioned ONLY Megas could be allowed. Looks like some other people thought of this too. Anyway, will this be installed?
So I have an Idea: Choice Specs Mega-Charizard-Y. Calcs:
252 SpA Choice Specs Mega Charizard Y Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Eviolite Chansey in Sun: 301-355 (42.7 - 50.4%) -- 96.1% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252 SpA Choice Specs Mega Charizard Y Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Blissey in Sun: 363-427 (50.8 - 59.8%) -- 85.9% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Nope. Not at all going to hurt. Also, Mega-Blaziken is countered by ^ and to an extent Blastoise-Mega. Also, Pinsir-Mega checking it, along with standard counters Talonflame and Azumarill, lets it not seem too broken to me. To address Lucario, Bannette, Charizard-Y, and Venusaur counter it, but it is still a little broken. Arceus NEEDS to be banned. Also, Kangaskhan needs suspected, in my opinion. To sum it up, Arceus: BAN; Lucarionite:Unsure; Blaziken/nite: NO BAN; Kangaskhanite: Needs to be suspected. Also, AV Mega-Tyranitar in sand sounds bulky.
252+ Atk Life Orb Mega Blaziken Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Talonflame: 234-276 (78.7 - 92.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Life Orb Mega Blaziken High Jump Kick vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Talonflame: 234-277 (78.7 - 93.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Life Orb Mega Blaziken Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Azumarill in Sun: 295-347 (73 - 85.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Life Orb Mega Blaziken High Jump Kick vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 213-251 (52.7 - 62.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Life Orb Mega Blaziken Flare Blitz vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Charizard Y in Sun: 300-355 (100.6 - 119.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Mega Blaziken Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Charizard Y in Sun: 300-355 (83.3 - 98.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Life Orb Mega Blaziken Flare Blitz vs. 0 HP / 252 Def Mega Charizard Y in Sun: 226-266 (76 - 89.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Life Orb Mega Blaziken High Jump Kick vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Blastoise: 304-359 (83.9 - 99.1%) -- 75% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Life Orb Mega Blaziken Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Slowbro: 239-283 (60.6 - 71.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Life Orb Mega Blaziken Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Slowbro in Sun: 165-195 (41.8 - 49.4%) -- 25.8% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
etc.
THis thing has no safe switch ins, especially with sun support (this is not even including SD)

(btw lum SD pinsir loses: 252 Atk Aerilate Mega Pinsir Quick Attack vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Blaziken: 236-278 (78.4 - 92.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO)
 
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He's referring to the guy's idea not burgerking's idea

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252+ Atk Life Orb Mega Blaziken Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Talonflame: 234-276 (78.7 - 92.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Life Orb Mega Blaziken High Jump Kick vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Talonflame: 234-277 (78.7 - 93.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Life Orb Mega Blaziken Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Azumarill in Sun: 295-347 (73 - 85.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Life Orb Mega Blaziken High Jump Kick vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 213-251 (52.7 - 62.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Life Orb Mega Blaziken Flare Blitz vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Charizard Y in Sun: 300-355 (100.6 - 119.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Mega Blaziken Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Charizard Y in Sun: 300-355 (83.3 - 98.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Life Orb Mega Blaziken Flare Blitz vs. 0 HP / 252 Def Mega Charizard Y in Sun: 226-266 (76 - 89.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Life Orb Mega Blaziken High Jump Kick vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Blastoise: 304-359 (83.9 - 99.1%) -- 75% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Life Orb Mega Blaziken Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Slowbro: 239-283 (60.6 - 71.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Life Orb Mega Blaziken Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Slowbro in Sun: 165-195 (41.8 - 49.4%) -- 25.8% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
etc.
THis thing has no safe switch ins, especially with sun support (this is not even including SD)

(btw lum SD pinsir loses: 252 Atk Aerilate Mega Pinsir Quick Attack vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Blaziken: 236-278 (78.4 - 92.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO)
Any reason you forgot this?
252+ Atk Life Orb Mega Blaziken Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Giratina: 224-265 (44.4 - 52.5%) W/Leftovers, first hit
252+ Atk Life Orb Mega Blaziken Knock Off vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Giratina: 151-179 (29.9 - 35.5%) sunsequent hits. Plenty of time to Roar or Dragon Tail or Thunder Wave, or something.
And that assumes that you're carrying three attacks- no HJK you miss out on Palkia and Kyogre kills, no Flare Blitz and you can't kill Xerneas and no Knock Off and you can't touch Ho-Oh and Giratina, and 'Quaza can sponge a hit before Espeeding. You either miss out on coverage, or on further support. Without Protect, FI, Scarf Mewtwo can cheerfully ruin your day.
 
252 Atk Expert Belt Aerilate Mega Pinsir Quick Attack vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Blaziken: 283-334 (94 - 110.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
Life Orb does even more. Also,
252+ Atk Mega Blaziken High Jump Kick vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 164-193 (40.5 - 47.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
You seem to not realize this is the metagame of strong attackers anyway. SubLO Blaziken looses 35% of its health AT MINIMUM after two turns. Then Azumarill
252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Blaziken: 288-342 (95.6 - 113.6%) -- 75% chance to OHKO
Not countering me? Mega-Blaziken has nowhere near the power of Mega Lucario and Arceus. Giratina lols as you try to hurt it as it Rests, then laughs off the 35% with Thunder Wave/Dragon Tail. Trying to say 'In Ubers Mega-Blaziken is broken' shows just why this needs to get implemented, so we can actually test them. I probably will nominate and vote for this Month 11 Other Metagame of the month but is there any word on getting this implemented, TBK99?
 
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