Project USUM OU Victim of the Week [Week 49: Dragon Dance Gyarados]

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Slowbro-Mega @ Slowbronite
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Scald
- Slack Off
- Toxic
- Calm Mind / Iron Defense

Mega Slowbro hard walls Mega Tyranitar, taking pitiful damage from its STABs even at +1.

+1 252+ Atk Tyranitar-Mega Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Slowbro-Mega: 151-178 (38.3 - 45.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after sandstorm damage

This can easily be slacked off on and you can threaten Tyranitar out with a Scald.

0 SpA Slowbro-Mega Scald vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Tyranitar-Mega in Sand: 126-150 (36.8 - 43.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

For the 4th move slot, you can run either Calm Mind or Iron Defense depending on your preference. Calm Mind is for sweeping while Iron Defense makes it unkillable vs physical threats.
 

david0895

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Ash-Greninja as a check



Greninja-Ash (M) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Battle Bond
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Dark Pulse
- Water Shuriken
- Spikes / Ice Beam / U-turn

With a massive 153 Special Attack boosted by Choice Specs and a 132 speed (399), Ashninja can check Mega Tyranitar even at +1 (397)

252 SpA Choice Specs Greninja-Ash Hydro Pump vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Tyranitar-Mega in Sand: 348-410 (102 - 120.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 
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Scarf Keldeo as a check
Keldeo @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid / Hasty Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Secret Sword
- Stone Edge / Icy Wind
- Scald / Surf
Keldeo can even manage to survive any move at +1 and any move but EQ at +2 and easily OHKO Ttar-Mega with Secret Sword, easy stuff, Scarf allows you to outspeed +1 Tyranitar. You can run Naive if you want to check Tyranitar-Mega better while still getting a guaranteed KO in non-Charti Volcarona and have 50% chance of KOing ZardY with Stone Edge, but Keldeo become a worse Ash-Greninja check.
252 SpA Keldeo Secret Sword vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar-Mega: 388-460 (113.7 - 134.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Keldeo: 142-168 (43.9 - 52%) -- 74.2% chance to 2HKO after sandstorm damage
+1 252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Keldeo: 212-250 (65.6 - 77.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after sandstorm damage
+1 252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Keldeo: 237-279 (73.3 - 86.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after sandstorm damage
+2 252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Keldeo: 283-334 (87.6 - 103.4%) -- 25% chance to OHKO (62.5% after Rocks)
+2 252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Keldeo: 315-371 (97.5 - 114.8%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO
252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Keldeo: 106-126 (32.8 - 39%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after sandstorm damage
+2 252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Keldeo: 236-278 (73 - 86%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after sandstorm damage
 
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Lopunny-Mega as a CHECK

Lopunny-Mega @ Lopunnite
Ability: Limber
EVs: 252 Attk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- High Jump Kick
- Return
- Power-up Punch
- Ice Punch / Fake Out
Lopunny-Mega certainly did fall off this generation, but it's still a decent pokemon. It outspeeds Mega T-tar even at +1 (mega lopunny hits 398 with 224 evs which is just enough, though I put max speed because of ashgren and koko) and just OHKOes with HJK. The set is relatively straightforward - Dual STAB, PuP to have a chance at breaking past some of its bulkier checks, and either Ice Punch for Lando or Fake Out for Webs.
252 Atk Lopunny-Mega High Jump Kick vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar-Mega: 616-732 (180.6 - 214.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
However, it's not a good idea to switch it in, as Mega T-tar will get off huge damage with EQ and even SE:
+1 252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Lopunny-Mega: 204-240 (75.2 - 88.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after sandstorm damage
+1 252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Lopunny-Mega: 153-180 (56.4 - 66.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after sandstorm damage

While you could switch in your Lopunny hard they'd likely predict and click DD again, meaning your Lopunny now fails to do much vs. T-tar. It best comes in on the predicted first DD or on a free switch after its been boosted. Thus, it's a check - though a very good one indeed.
 
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Quagsire as a counter

Quagsire (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Unaware
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Toxic / Curse
- Scald / Waterfall
- Earthquake
- Recover

252+ Atk Tyranitar-Mega Crunch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Quagsire: 136-162 (34.5 - 41.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock, 2 layers of Spikes, and Leftovers recovery

even with 3 spikes up, it's around a 60% chance to 2HKO lol

everything else bounces off

and I mean everything

252+ Atk Tyranitar-Mega Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Quagsire on a critical hit: 171-202 (43.4 - 51.2%) -- 5.9% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
 
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Scarf Protean Ninja as a check


Greninja @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Protean
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Rock Slide
- U-turn
- Ice Beam
- Low Kick

Greninja can come in(not directly) outspeed even at +2(lol) and kill Tyranitar with Low Kick due to Stone Godzilla(Tyranitar)'s 4x weakness to fighting.You can't enter on Tyranitar Mega because +1 Stone Edge murders Greninja

252 Atk Protean Greninja Low Kick (120 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar-Mega: 444-528 (129.8 - 154.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Greninja: 270-318 (94.7 - 111.5%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO
252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Greninja: 180-212 (63.1 - 74.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after sandstorm damage
+1 252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Greninja: 405-477 (142.1 - 167.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+1 252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Greninja: 270-318 (94.7 - 111.5%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO
+2 252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Greninja: 538-634 (188.7 - 222.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Fire Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Greninja: 135-159 (47.3 - 55.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after sandstorm damage
252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Fire Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Greninja: 68-80 (23.8 - 28%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after sandstorm damage

 
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Terrakion @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Stone Edge
- Close Combat
- Rock Slide
- Toxic / Earthquake

With a Choice Scarf, Terrakion outspeeds Mega Tyranitar even if it's at +1, and its typing allows it to switch in on any of its moves (with the exception of Earthquake) and OHKO with Close Combat.

However, if Tyranitar manages to reach +1, Terrakion can only switch in on Fire Punch.

Offensive:
252 Atk Terrakion Stone Edge vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar-Mega: 115-136 (33.6 - 39.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 Atk Terrakion Close Combat vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar-Mega: 552-652 (161.4 - 190.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Terrakion Rock Slide vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar-Mega: 85-102 (24.8 - 29.8%) -- 100% chance to 4HKO
252 Atk Terrakion Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar-Mega: 154-182 (45 - 53.2%) -- 31.3% chance to 2HKO

Defensive:
252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Terrakion: 105-125 (32.5 - 38.6%) -- 98.9% chance to 3HKO
+1 252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Terrakion: 158-186 (48.9 - 57.5%) -- 96.1% chance to 2HKO
252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Ice Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Terrakion: 106-125 (32.8 - 38.6%) -- 99.4% chance to 3HKO
+1 252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Ice Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Terrakion: 158-187 (48.9 - 57.8%) -- 96.1% chance to 2HKO
252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Fire Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Terrakion: 53-62 (16.4 - 19.1%) -- possible 6HKO
+1 252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Fire Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Terrakion: 79-93 (24.4 - 28.7%) -- 99.7% chance to 4HKO
252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Terrakion: 282-334 (87.3 - 103.4%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO
 
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Breloom @ Life Orb
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Mach Punch
- Bullet Seed
- Spore
- Swords Dance

Breloom has access to STAB Technician Mach Punch, which ignores Mega Tyranitar's speed boosts and OHKOes it after Stealth Rock. Concequently, it stands in the way of a Mega Tyranitar sweep. It's pretty self-explanatory.
 
Check: Rotom Wash


Rotom-Wash @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 248 HP / 200 Def / 60 Spe
Bold Nature
- Volt Switch
- Hydro Pump
- Will-O-Wisp
- Pain Split

0 SpA Rotom-Wash Hydro Pump vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Tyranitar-Mega in Sand: 140-168 (40.9 - 49.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Stone Edge vs. 248 HP / 200+ Def Rotom-Wash: 139-165 (45.8 - 54.4%) -- 52.3% chance to 2HKO after sandstorm damage and Leftovers recovery

WoW and Pain Split or WoW + Hydro Pump are the combination of moves you need to KO Mega Tyranitar.
The former choice is safer than the latter one because, this way, you neuter the Atk boosts from 2 Dragon Dances at once.
 
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Mega Swampert as a check (sorry this took so long, forgot about it)

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Swampert-Mega @ Swampertite
Ability: Damp
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant / Jolly Nature
- Waterfall
- Earthquake
- Ice Punch
- Superpower

Mega Pert can take any hit from Mega Tar at +1 (or even +2) and kills with Superpower outside of rain, and Adamant kills with waterfall in rain (jolly has a 37.5% chance to kill with waterfall in rain). Not much more to say here, Pert is a good check to Mega Ttar.

+1 252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Swampert-Mega: 180-212 (52.7 - 62.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

+2 252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Swampert-Mega: 239-282 (70 - 82.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252 Atk Swampert-Mega Superpower vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar-Mega: 408-484 (119.6 - 141.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ Atk Swampert-Mega Waterfall vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar-Mega in Rain: 338-398 (99.1 - 116.7%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO

252 Atk Swampert-Mega Waterfall vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar-Mega in Rain: 306-362 (89.7 - 106.1%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO
 
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Counter: Choice Scarf Tapu Bulu

Tapu Bulu @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Grassy Surge
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Rock Slide
- Horn Leech
- Superpower
- Wood Hammer

252 Atk Tapu Bulu Wood Hammer vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar-Mega in Grassy Terrain: 414-488 (121.4 - 143.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Tapu Bulu Horn Leech vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar-Mega in Grassy Terrain: 260-308 (76.2 - 90.3%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock

252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Fire & Ice Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Tapu Bulu: 172-204 (61.2 - 72.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after sandstorm damage and Grassy Terrain recovery
 
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Pyukumuku as a counter

Pyukumuku @ Leftovers
Ability: Unaware
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
- Recover
- Counter
- Toxic
- Soak/Whatever

Pyukumuku can snack hits and with Unaware ddance is rendered useless. Fire Punch and Ice Punch can't do anything. SR generally isn't a threat ,although with 1 layer of spikes and sr or a crit with stone edge/thunderpunch can threaten pyukumuku. Pyukumuku can whittle down t-tar with toxic and recover off the damage or counter.

252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Unaware Pyukumuku: 118-139 (37.5 - 44.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after sandstorm damage and Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Crunch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Unaware Pyukumuku: 93-111 (29.6 - 35.3%) -- 19.3% chance to 3HKO after sandstorm damage and Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Thunder Punch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Unaware Pyukumuku: 118-140 (37.5 - 44.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after sandstorm damage and Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Unaware Pyukumuku: 79-93 (25.1 - 29.6%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after sandstorm damage and Leftovers recovery


252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Unaware Pyukumuku: 118-139 (37.5 - 44.2%) -- 2.3% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock, sandstorm damage, and Leftovers recovery (Thunder Punch is the same scenario)
252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Crunch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Unaware Pyukumuku: 93-111 (29.6 - 35.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock, sandstorm damage, and Leftovers recovery


252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Unaware Pyukumuku: 118-139 (37.5 - 44.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock, 1 layer of Spikes, sandstorm damage, and Leftovers recovery (Thunder Punch is the same scenario)
252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Crunch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Unaware Pyukumuku: 93-111 (29.6 - 35.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock, 1 layer of Spikes, sandstorm damage, and Leftovers recovery


252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Crunch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Unaware Pyukumuku on a critical hit: 141-166 (44.9 - 52.8%) -- 25.8% chance to 2HKO after sandstorm damage and Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Unaware Pyukumuku on a critical hit: 177-208 (56.3 - 66.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after sandstorm damage and Leftovers recovery
 

Hippowdon @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 240 Def / 16 SpD
Impish Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Slack Off
- Whirlwind

Hippowdon as a check. Hippowdon isn't 2HKOd by any Mega Tyranitar's attack at +1, while Hippowdon 2HKOs Mega Tyranitar and can heal with Slack Off.

+1 252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 240+ Def Hippowdon: 94-111 (22.3 - 26.4%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
+1 252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 240+ Def Hippowdon: 126-149 (30 - 35.4%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
+1 252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Crunch vs. 252 HP / 240+ Def Hippowdon: 151-178 (35.9 - 42.3%) -- 92.4% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
+1 252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Ice Punch vs. 252 HP / 240+ Def Hippowdon: 190-224 (45.2 - 53.3%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

0 Atk Hippowdon Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar-Mega: 168-200 (49.2 - 58.6%) -- 98.4% chance to 2HKO
 
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Regular Scizor as a check. Either mega or regular scizor running Superpower can OHKO and is a tiny bit faster than Mega-Tar, so it can come in on Stone Edge, Earthquake, or Ice punch (but not on D-Dance or Fire punch) and OHKO. The only thing is, Scizor has to run jolly rather than the more common adamant nature. Even if T-Tar gets a dance up, most builds can do a good amount of damage with Bullet Punch, and then T-Tar is easy enough to revenge kill with its mediocre speed, even at +1.

Needless to say, any T-Tar without Fire Punch is wrecked by Scizor. But even against a Fire Punch set, Scizor can do a job.

Scizor @ Choice Band
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Bullet Punch
- U-turn
- Superpower
- Pursuit

252 Atk Choice Band Scizor Superpower vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar-Mega: 552-652 (161.4 - 190.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Choice Band Technician Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar-Mega: 206-246 (60.2 - 71.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
(T-Tar OHKOs with Fire Punch)

Scizor @ Life Orb
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Bullet Punch
- Bug Bite
- Superpower

252 Atk Life Orb Scizor Superpower vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar-Mega: 478-567 (139.7 - 165.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Life Orb Technician Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar-Mega: 179-213 (52.3 - 62.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Scizor @ Scizorite
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Bullet Punch
- Bug Bite
- Superpower

252 Atk Scizor-Mega Superpower vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar-Mega: 408-484 (119.2 - 141.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Technician Scizor-Mega Bullet Punch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar-Mega: 152-182 (44.4 - 53.2%) -- 30.1% chance to 2HKO

Even in a more defensive build, with no attack EVs and a jolly nature can alway OHKO with Superpower, and T-Tar cannot OHKO with Fire Punch:

Scizor @ Scizorite
Ability: Light Metal
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 Spe
Impish Nature
- Defog
- U-turn/Bullet Punch
- Superpower
- Roost

0 Atk Scizor-Mega Superpower vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar-Mega: 344-408 (100.5 - 119.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Fire Punch vs. 248 HP / 0+ Def Scizor-Mega: 268-316 (78.1 - 92.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Ditto for the Standard Scizor, but again running superpower

Scizor @ Scizorite
Ability: Light Metal
EVs: 248 HP / 244 Def / 16 Spe
Impish Nature
- Defog
- U-turn/Bullet Punch
- Superpower
- Roost

252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Fire Punch vs. 248 HP / 244+ Def Scizor-Mega: 224-264 (65.3 - 76.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
0 Atk Scizor-Mega Superpower vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar-Mega: 344-408 (100.5 - 119.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Even at +1, Meta-Tar does not always OHKO with Fire Punch:
+1 252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Fire Punch vs. 248 HP / 244+ Def Scizor-Mega: 336-396 (97.9 - 115.4%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO
Though after rocks/spikes, it's obviously a different matter.
 
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Time for posting is Over. You may vote for 2 checks and 2 counters

Checks
Ash Greninja
Scarf Keldeo
Mega Lopunny
Scarf protean ninja
Scarf Terrakion
Breloom
Rotom Wash
Mega Swampert
Hippowdon
Mega Scizor

Counters
Mega Slowbro
Pyukumumu
Choice scarf Tapu Bulu
Quagsire

LeNorm Since you listed Calcs for mega Zor we will accept mega zor as your nomination. Standard Scizor even tho its decent and fun to use really has no niche in OU as it cant bypass Tapu lele unlike other Priority users and its Main perk of Role Compression is done better by Other steels like magerna and Jirachi.
 

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Checks: Choice Scarf Keldeo and Choice Scarf Greninja
Mega Scizor is a really mediocre check to Mega Tyranitar IMO. Even if it's running a fully physically defensive spread (which imo it should be in this meta unless ur looking to do jank shit like outrunning Magnezone or smth, and even then it should be running phys investment) and Superpower (this sounds bad but lets run with it), it only does around 40% with Bullet Punch while failing to outrun even unboosted Mega Tyranitar, forcing it to eat a Fire Punch before it can use Superpower while almost always being OHKOed if Tyranitar boosts to +1 as it switches in. In addition, if it is attacked while it switches in it is forced to BP anyway 'cause FP OHKOs after any attack other than Ice Punch. If it comes in on a free switch and Mega Tyranitar is not boosted, it is very easy to take advantage of Scizor's passivity with the plethora of other checks, especially when you consider that a Tyranitar which is at the stage in the game where it isn't boosting up yet is probably not going to stay in to get chunked by BP, and while Scizor can grab momentum with U-turn off of this, it still means that your method of checking it hasn't even really achieved that much while undermining the purpose of running Superpower.

The rest of the checks are fine imo. Hippo feels a little too shaky for my liking though, being forced to stall for HP with Slack Off (risking a freeze) before it can safely click Whirlwind or EQ vs Tar and being chunked before using 'Wind if Tar boosts on its Slack Offs. Rotom-W isn't really switching in vs Mega Tyranitar, and I think that a faster spread (e.g. one that creeps Bulu or Magearna or smth) would be better suited to checking Mega Tyranitar due to actually being able to switch in and then get a Wisp off vs it without risking a 2HKO from unboosted SEdge. I also do not feel that Ash Greninja is that consistent of a check to Mega Tyranitar due to the fact that it is outpaced and OHKOed by +1 Mega Tyranitar before transformation while still being cucked by Mega Tyranitar if it is under Aurora Veil (which is a very real possibility, especially in the current metagame).

My reason for picking the two of the remaining checks that I have simply comes down to the fact that I feel they are the most viable checks to Mega Tyranitar in the current metagame which are not only used on one subset of an archetype (see: Mega Swampert). Choice Scarf Keldeo doesn't really have anything to fear from Mega Tyranitar outside of +2 EQs when healthy and 2HKOes with Secret Sword if Aurora Veil is active on Tyranitar's side of the field. That said, I disagree with the way that moves are slashed on the listed set because I feel that Choice Scarf Keldeo is not going to viable without Stone Edge while Volcarona is still popular. Scarf Low Kick Gren does have to fear Mega Tyranitar if it is under Aurora Veil, but it is a consistent stop to it outside of Aurora Veil due to not needing to transform like is the case with Ash Greninja if it wants to RK it at +1.

Counters: Quagsire and Mega Slowbro
Scarf Tapu Bulu may be a counter in the literal sense, but practically speaking it is only a check and is not something I would consider worth using in the current metagame; not only can it only switch in on Mega Tyranitar once (which is terrible considering that it will generally just click attacks until it is in a position to set up and sweep), but it also involves running a Tapu Bulu set which hasn't done anything at all since January due to a combination of it not really being that potent vs offense like is the case with Tapu Lele or pre-MegaGross-ban Scarf Hoopa-U.

As for Pyukumuku, this Pokemon is not viable without Baton Pass; it is as simple as that.

Mega Slowbro and Quagsire are both consistent counters to Mega Tyranitar, although the latter can be set up to +2 (assuming no scald burn) vs and chunked by rarer Crunch variants.
 
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