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From laddering Like 10k games; independent of anything else: Heroic Troller to win. Unless Roudolf plays... Edit: this is based off ladder play, but I seldom lose indepenent of charizard thoughts, but Heroic Troller is a beast.

Ground does too effect ghost type

Onix might look good in theory because it's defense stat, but Rhydon is better defense because it's HP stat, it has to do with how damage is calculated, look at the damage calculator. Bind isn't that good, and rhydon can cover with ice beam

Nidoking genuinely can come in on any thunder move for free, immune. Then attack with any attack with a movepool the size of jupiter. I'm fact, I'm going to go out and say Nidoking is better than even tauros, it's only definitely OU.

Just realized nidoking should be OU too

SD if predict is swap, then SD again, tank the ice beam, and 1 shot. Gengar naturally goes with charizard, so snorlax uses Earthquake on gengar, charizard swaps in. Charizard then once in either will duke it out with snorlax

It's flying typing allows it to switch into earthquakes from opposing snorlax, which then allows the charizard player to play vs a lower hp snorlax for later in the match, or outpredict a starmie swap for a body Slam, or chansey swap.

I don't understand "fakelead starmie" so I added Charizard and Rhydon as good late game offensive sweepers, which have both offensive and defensive qualities.

My bad yet again, I forgot that dark types aren't in gen1, let me rebuild my thoughts with these 2 leads instead: Jynx and Alakazam both resist psychic types and both are offensively and defensively versatile.

Charizard isn't itself why, it's just very under-rated. Gengar and Jynx are both better obviously, as they both resist psychic type leads, while being fast sleepers.

Golduck is already a liability vs Psychics, if I have a Golduck in vs any standard team, the standard will aways go to chansey, starmie or alakazam and block golduck from doing anything. They also have other options like, Jolteon, Cloyster, Lapras..maybe Zapdos. Poliwrath is better than golduck...

Arcanine is weak to Earthquake, while Charizard is immune to it, you can't reflect arcanine reliably at all without being worse off, Charizards movepool is able to to be a threat to most of OU, with EQ, Submission, and SD, I don't think the two are in the same tier. Arcanine isn't as good at...

Rhydon and Golem are functionally the same thing, in a battle most of the time chip damage is relevant, which negates the difference of damage outputs between the two. Defensively they both block hyper beam and self destruct about the same, Golems explosion is why Chansey (or snorlax) might not...

Getting off the topic of Charizard though... Golem is also criminally under-rated, with how it isn't OU, or correlated with Rhydons relative stature as A/B ranking. Golem is atleast B, for what it can do is relative to what Rhydon does, unless it's not doing the same exact functional purposes, I...

It's on. I'll run Zard every match.

Charizard swaps into (low hp)Snorlax EQ, is completely IMMUNE, then sets up SD. Submission is for Chansey. Your forgetting about flying type immunity. I can take it to win any non SPL level tourn

Okay well if you think it's not decent I'll use it in OU and win most tournaments guarenteed.

No it's not lmao, moltres isn't even close. Charizards move pool has Earthquake, Submission, Swords Dance, hyper beam, moltres can only do 1 thing, unlike Charizard which is versatile. How do you switch into a movepool like that?

That's not what I'm saying though, I was trying to make a point that Charizard isn't even like bad though... and is competitive enough to be viable in OU. It's not just a anti-lead vs Jynx, but can run multiple sets so it's not easy to predict what to switch in vs it, you cant just switch...

Charizard: isn't as bad as most people make it out to be, I've used it to beat top players by forcing out turn 0 and paralyzing opponents on Turn 1. It also can setup late game as a sweeper. IMO, maybe even C-tier level. I've used it to get above 1500 on the ladder myself. If anything, I can...