again I just wanna emphasize, we cannot work off the assumption that a firefighter claim is 100% real and greenchecked
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This was literally the last line of my post though??? I guess I can see what you're saying about firefighter, though--if mafia knows the setup that could cause a lot of confusion with no CC. Still, I think there is useful info to be gained, since I think we will likely have a good idea of which setup it is in the first couple of days regardless. If there is a firefighter claim and it isn't the Arso setup, it's an easy vote.
I’m chilling, I don’t play ToS and some people here do. Thread’s too inactive for me to jump into conversations since I have no view on mech, but random RVS stuff I’m used to would distract from the important mech convos
you're boring
I wouldn't worry about distracting from any conversations because those conversations aren't happening rn
like if im a role thats only in one setup thats info i want to share it influences my play what the setup options are yk
This has literally been the underlying goal of the conversation that I started lmao??
The only town role that is unique to any specific setup is Firefighter. Random Town can encompass the other roles, so it seems a pointless exercise without claims--which, as we have discussed, doesn't seem like a good play atp.
witch can be a random neutral anyway I believe. its guaranteed for one setup but I think it can still pop up in others
I don't really know tbh. this doesn't connect much with what originally said
I will say I find the psypsy posting style pretty annoying especially this early. It's not like we actually want to pressure people publicly rn because we don't have to vote today and because we will probably get mechanical info before we do have to vote.
I feel that its going to be difficult to sus out which of the 4 worlds we're in from using only info that a person personally has. After tonight we'll have more public info, though. In particular, I feel Gun Game will be very easy to sus out from seeing how many kills happen. Gun game comes with 3-4 killing roles built in whereas other setups like Confusion Delusion only have a low number of killing roles, or Liar Liar which has killing roles that don't work on night 1 (arsonist). So if we see 4 people die immediately it will very obvioulsy be gun game.
I feel that its going to be difficult to sus out which of the 4 worlds we're in from using only info that a person personally has. After tonight we'll have more public info, though. In particular, I feel Gun Game will be very easy to sus out from seeing how many kills happen. Gun game comes with 3-4 killing roles built in whereas other setups like Confusion Delusion only have a low number of killing roles, or Liar Liar which has killing roles that don't work on night 1 (arsonist). So if we see 4 people die immediately it will very obvioulsy be gun game.
I've found my first victim
sure but like if im a role thats guaranteed in a setup it prob makes it more likely its that setup etc etc idk just looking for any info i can get
i can now however say i have no relevant information about what setup it is though
idfk why everyones piling on me for saying that i want to look at the setup info and put it together w the info i have to try to infer smth lol
should i calculate bayesian probabilities of what setups are most likely given my role that would be funny
nah psy and sunny were the ones on my ass
FTR I agree in broad strokes with this post, but it is worth noting a few mechanical things about gun game setup:
1) The 2x mafia killing does not mean that mafia gets 2 kills--they still only get 1 Gunpoint (i.e. one factional kill), just two roles that have unique killing abilities
2) Vigilante cannot shoot night 1
3) Killing roles can always opt-out of submitting a kill.
So a 4x kill on n1 will tell us the setup, but that is an extremely unlikely scenario
No I think that is a totally valid proposition from a probability perspective, the problem I had is that you made it sound like a guaranteed way to find setup with a non-firefighter role, which is just incorrect.
I'd like flanders, lechen and master oden to post before I go to sleep if possible.
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sure i mean i was literally saying 'i doubt i can w/o claims' but like i didnt remembre how the setup worked so like yea idk i get what you mean tho
Especially StupidFlandrs48 since he has been viewing the thread for like the past 3 hoursI'd like flanders, lechen and master oden to post before I go to sleep if possible.
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Oh oops good point.
idk i think not posting is not as much a problem as in noc here, but is also more important than full OC so like
who knows
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