VGC Ogerpon-W

[SoulboyVGC]

[SET]
Offensive Support (Ogerpon-Wellspring) @ Wellspring Mask
Ability: Embody Aspect
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 204 HP / 100 Atk / 4 Def / 12 SpD / 188 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Ivy Cudgel
- Horn Leech
- Follow Me
- Spiky Shield

[SET COMMENTS]
Ogerpon-W is a bulky attacker with the ability to redirect with Follow Me. It has an excellent Kyogre matchup and can take on Calyrex-S well after Terastallizing, being able to not only take their hits effectively but also threaten them for 2HKOs with Horn Leech and Ivy Cudgel, (AC) respectively. The HP and Special Defense investment allow Ogerpon-W to survive two Spell Tag Astral Barrages from Calyrex-S once Terastallized. The Attack investment allows Ogerpon-W to OHKO Landorus-I with Tera Water even after Intimidate, and the Speed investment lets it outspeed Landorus-I.

Ogerpon-W's supportive toolkit and strong offensive pressure are appreciated on a variety of teams. Calyrex-I teams frequently use it to beat opposing Kyogre and have an attacker that can function outside of Trick Room. Calyrex-S also makes for a great pairing, with Ogerpon-W's redirection allowing Calyrex-S to set up while Ogerpon-W threatens Incineroar and Chi-Yu. Incineroar provides Intimidate, which in combination with Embody Aspect makes Ogerpon-W hard to remove. Ogerpon-W further accentuates this pairing by redirecting attacks that threaten Incineroar such as Surging Strikes from Urshifu-R and Earth Power from Landorus-I. Common threats such as Rillaboom and Raging Bolt threaten Ogerpon-W with massive damage and resist its STAB moves, and Incineroar makes Ogerpon-W less threatening. However, Ogerpon-W provides value in these matchups by supporting partners like Calyrex-I, which can deal with the former two. Teams without Calyrex-I still can use Ogerpon-W to protect powerful threats such as Calyrex-S, which can eventually overwhelm the opposition.

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[LovelyLuna]

Good work, can mark as QC 1/2!

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Kyogre's bully

[SET]
Ogerpon-Wellspring @ Wellspring Mask
Ability: Embody Aspect
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 204 HP / 100 Atk / 4 Def / 12 SpD / 188 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Ivy Cudgel
- Horn Leech / Wood Hammer / Power Whip (I don't believe either of these are used? Labmaus at least suggest no Power Whip and one time where Wood Hammer saw more than 20% usage (only 4 Ogerpon in the tournament, the Wood Hammer player went 2-4) Recoil on the bulky Pokemon doesn't usually end well)
- Follow Me
- Spiky Shield

[SET COMMENTS]
* Ogerpon-W is a bulky redirector with Follow Me that can also serve as an attacker when it Terastallizes (Would say it still functions as an Offensive support before Tera, up to you. ). It is mainly played for its excellent Kyogre matchup and the ability to take on Calyrex-S after Terastallizing. The HP and Special Defense investment allows Ogerpon-W to live survive two Life Orb Astral Barrages once Terastallized, (Live is informal, calc says almost 25% chance to die to Life Orb Astral, did you mean Spell Tag? up to you but consider bringing up the ability to OHKO Landorus when Terastallized after Intimidate, or 2HKOing Flutter Mane with Horn Leech as offensive calcs. Btw you might want to clarify why Horn Leech over other Grass-STAB.) and the Speed investment lets you outspeed Landorus. The rest of the EVs are distributed into Attack to give Ogerpon-W offensive pressure.

[SET COMMENTS]
* Ogerpon-W's unique traits are appreciated on a variety of teams. Calyrex-I teams frequently use it as a way to beat opposing Kyogre teams and to have a fast attacker (Consider highlighting its ability to function outside of Trick Room.), all in the one Pokemon. Calyrex-S also makes for a great pairing, with Ogerpon-W's redirection allowing it to set up while Ogerpon-W also threatens Incineroar and Chi-Yu. Some of Ogerpon-W's main problems come from Urshifu-R being incredible competition for an offensive Water type while Amoonguss competes for the slot of redirector. Furthermore, common threats such as Rillaboom and Raging Bolt threaten Ogerpon with massive damage and resist its STAB moves (Notable as they are slower.) and Incineroar makes Ogerpon-W less threatening. Additionally, the many spread moves in the format make Follow Me a less valuable tool in general.

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[Choruto]

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I'd like to recheck this, but we will see, dm on disc for questions.

Idk what to put here

[SET]
Offensive Support (Ogerpon-Wellspring) @ Wellspring Mask Needs a name
Ability: Embody Aspect
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 204 HP / 100 Atk / 4 Def / 12 SpD / 188 Spe Are most rly Jolly?
Jolly Nature
- Ivy Cudgel
- Horn Leech
- Follow Me
- Spiky Shield

[SET COMMENTS]
* Ogerpon-W is a bulky redirector with Follow Me that can also serve as an attacker when it Terastallizes Ogerpon is a pretty good attacker even without Tera, it doesen't need Tera. Also, this sentence feels very weird to me, I wouldent say Ogerpon-W is primarily a bulky redirector, Amoonguss already does that, the Offensive coverage and speed more so with the option to redirect, can you reword this, or at least highlight bulky attacker with the ability to redirect?. It is mainly played for its excellent Kyogre matchup and the ability to take on Calyrex-S after Terastallizing Like is it? I really dont think thats the only reason or even main reason people play it, Amoonguss is way better at that. Its its offensive pressure and coverage which is really strong. Below you also mention Its unique traits but you dont say any here. What are they. The HP and Special Defense investment allows Ogerpon-W to survive two Spell Tag Astral Barrages from Calyrex-S once Terastallized, The Attack investment allows Ogerpon-W to OHKO Landorus with Water Terastallization even after Intimidate and the Speed investment lets you outspeed Landorus. The rest of the EVs are distributed into Attack to give Ogerpon-W offensive pressure.

[SET COMMENTS]
* Ogerpon-W's unique traits are appreciated on a variety of teams What unique traits. Calyrex-I teams frequently use it as a way to beat opposing Kyogre teams and to have an attacker that can function outside of Trick Room, all in the one Pokemon. Calyrex-S also makes for a great pairing, with Ogerpon-W's redirection allowing it to set up while Ogerpon-W also threatens Incineroar and Chi-Yu. Can you mention Incineroar? Its paired with Ogerpon-W like 70% of the time Some of Ogerpon-W's main problems come from Urshifu-R being incredible competition for an offensive Water type while Amoonguss competes for the slot of redirector. Furthermore, common threats such as Rillaboom and Raging Bolt threaten Ogerpon with massive damage and resist its STAB moves. and Incineroar makes Ogerpon-W less threatening. Additionally, the many spread moves in the format make Follow Me a less valuable tool in general. This is all generally true, but for the first sentence you make it seem like Ogerpon-W is just worse than these mons and dont explain why its being used, which is really good role compression and generally strong. I'd mention that in the intro and then rephrase this to:
"Ogerpon-W's focus on role compression means that sometimes its outclassed by Pokemon such as Urshifu-R and Amoonguss, which preform individual roles better, in this case being a Water-type attacker and Grass-type redirector, respectfully"
Then for the spread move Follow Me point, this is kinda weird as earlier you mention that it has a good MU into Kyogre and Calyrex-S (And kinda Caly-I too, but whatever) which are like one of the 2-3 big spread attackers. Maybe remove that.

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[SoulboyVGC]

Ready for recheck

 

[Choruto]

QC 2/2 after these are implemented as I got most before.

Wogerpon

[SET]
Offensive Support (Ogerpon-Wellspring) @ Wellspring Mask
Ability: Embody Aspect
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 204 HP / 100 Atk / 4 Def / 12 SpD / 188 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Ivy Cudgel
- Horn Leech
- Follow Me
- Spiky Shield

[SET COMMENTS]
Ogerpon-W is a bulky attacker with the ability to redirect with Follow Me. It is mainly played for its It has an excellent Kyogre matchup and the ability to take on Calyrex-S well after Terastallizing Im still miffy on the mainly part, so changed it a bit, being able to not only take their hits effectively but threaten them for 2HKOs with Horn Leech and Ivy Cudgel respectively. The HP and Special Defense investment allows Ogerpon-W to survive two Spell Tag Astral Barrages once Terastallized, the Attack investment allows Ogerpon-W to OHKO Landorus with Water Terastallization even after Intimidate and the Speed investment lets you outspeed Landorus. More GP so haven't highlighted it but im sure you can split this into 2 sentences so its easier to read. The rest of the EVs are distributed into Attack to give Ogerpon-W offensive pressure. You mention a calc already IDT you need this


Ogerpon-W's ability to compress the role of both Urshifu-R and Amoonguss Ogerpon-W's supportive toolkit as well as strong offensive pressure The direct comparison to mons sounder kinda klunky and I dont think its exactly taking the parts from the 2, I think this makes a bit more sense is appreciated on a variety of teams. Calyrex-I teams Im fine with it but is it actually that common on Caly-I? frequently use it as a way to beat opposing Kyogre teams and to have an attacker that can function outside of Trick Room, all in the one Pokemon. Calyrex-S also makes for a great pairing, with Ogerpon-W's redirection allowing it to set up while Ogerpon-W also threatens Incineroar and Chi-Yu. Incineroar makes for a great defensive pairing with Ogerpon-W, providing Intimidate, which when in combination with Embody Aspect makes Ogerpon-W extremely hard to remove. Ogerpon-W further accentuates this pairing by being able to redirect attacks that threaten Incineroar such as Surging Strikes from Urshifu-R and Earth Power from Landorus. This is kind of a lot I hope GP can cut it down Because of it's focus on role compression, Ogerpon-W's main problems come from Pokemon such as Urshifu-R and Amoonguss out-competing for it's individual roles of offensive Water-type and redirector, respectively. Furthermore, common threats such as Rillaboom and Raging Bolt threaten Ogerpon with massive damage and resist its STAB moves. and Incineroar makes Ogerpon-W less threatening.

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[sunny004]

GP Amcheck, let me know if you have any questions. I tried to edit with a mind to cut down some of the prose in the second paragraph, per QC.
add (AC) = add comma
remove (RC) = remove comma

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[SET]
Offensive Support (Ogerpon-Wellspring) @ Wellspring Mask
Ability: Embody Aspect
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 204 HP / 100 Atk / 4 Def / 12 SpD / 188 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Ivy Cudgel
- Horn Leech
- Follow Me
- Spiky Shield

[SET COMMENTS]
Ogerpon-W is a bulky attacker with the ability to redirect with Follow Me. It has an excellent Kyogre matchup and the ability to take on Calyrex-S well after Terastallizing, being able to not only take their hits effectively but also threaten them for 2HKOs with Horn Leech and Ivy Cudgel, (AC) respectively. The HP and Special Defense investment allows investments allow Ogerpon-W to survive two Spell Tag Astral Barrages once Terastallized. The Attack investment allows Ogerpon-W to OHKO Landorus with Tera Water Terastallization even after Intimidate, (AC) and the Speed investment lets you it outspeed Landorus.

Ogerpon-W's supportive toolkit as well as and strong offensive pressure is are appreciated on a variety of teams. Calyrex-I teams frequently use it as a way to beat opposing Kyogre and to have an attacker that can function outside of Trick Room. Calyrex-S also makes for a great pairing, with Ogerpon-W's redirection allowing it allows Calyrex-S to set up while Ogerpon-W also threatens Incineroar and Chi-Yu. Incineroar makes for a great defensive pairing with Ogerpon-W, providing provides Intimidate, which in combination with Embody Aspect makes Ogerpon-W hard to remove. Ogerpon-W further accentuates this pairing by being able to redirect redirecting attacks that threaten Incineroar such as Surging Strikes from Urshifu-R and Earth Power from Landorus. (RC) Ogerpon-W's main problem problems come from Pokemon such as Urshifu-R and Amoonguss,(AC) which outclass Ogerpon-W as an out-competing for it's individual roles of offensive Water-type and redirector, respectively. Furthermore, common threats such as Rillaboom and Raging Bolt threaten Ogerpon-W with massive damage and resist its STAB moves, (AC) and Incineroar makes Ogerpon-W less threatening.

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[SET]
Offensive Support (Ogerpon-Wellspring) @ Wellspring Mask
Ability: Embody Aspect
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 204 HP / 100 Atk / 4 Def / 12 SpD / 188 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Ivy Cudgel
- Horn Leech
- Follow Me
- Spiky Shield

[SET COMMENTS]
Ogerpon-W is a bulky attacker with the ability to redirect with Follow Me. It has an excellent Kyogre matchup and the ability to can take on Calyrex-S well after Terastallizing, being able to not only take their hits effectively but also threaten them for 2HKOs with Horn Leech and Ivy Cudgel, (AC) respectively. The HP and Special Defense investment allow Ogerpon-W to survive two Spell Tag Astral Barrages from Calyrex-S once Terastallized. The Attack investment allows Ogerpon-W to OHKO Landorus (do you mean Landorus-T here? Landorus = the genie forme only. you mention intimidate after this, so I assume you mean Landorus-T unless you mean a general 'Intimidate from anything'. If you do, it might be worth rephrasing / cutting the Intimidate mention to avoid confusion) with Tera Water Terastallization even after Intimidate, (AC) and the Speed investment lets you it outspeed Landorus.

Ogerpon-W's supportive toolkit as well as and strong offensive pressure is are appreciated on a variety of teams. Calyrex-I teams frequently use it as a way to beat opposing Kyogre and to have an attacker that can function outside of Trick Room. Calyrex-S also makes for a great pairing, with Ogerpon-W's redirection allowing it Calyrex-S to set up while Ogerpon-W also threatens Incineroar and Chi-Yu. Incineroar makes for a great defensive pairing with Ogerpon-W, providing provides Intimidate, which in combination with Embody Aspect makes Ogerpon-W hard to remove. Ogerpon-W further accentuates this pairing by being able to redirect redirecting attacks that threaten Incineroar such as Surging Strikes from Urshifu-R and Earth Power from Landorus. (RC) Ogerpon-W's main problem problems come from Pokemon such as Urshifu-R and Amoonguss,(AC) which outclass Ogerpon-W as an out-competing for it's individual roles of offensive Water-type and redirector, respectively. (this bolded sentence doesn't really fit - paragraph 2 is about teammates for oger / what to run to beat its checks, and this point doesn't offer either of those) Furthermore, common threats such as Rillaboom and Raging Bolt threaten Ogerpon-W with massive damage and resist its STAB moves, (AC) and Incineroar makes Ogerpon-W less threatening. (so what do you run to handle these? juts listing threats doesn't give anything for a new reader to learn how to cover them)

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