Any good starting points for stall except for a WishDino? I want to branch out as a player and explore new styles I haven't tried yet, and I've never cared much for stall nor faced it all too often on the ladder in recent times, so I'm not sure where to start.
A good stall core is Gastrodon - Sliggoo - Audino. Allstar posted an RMT which is a pretty nifty Stall team. Other mons you could use are Weezing, Steelix and Gourgeist. When you're building stall make sure you're not too weak to hazards so levitating mons and mons who can deal with status are something to think about. Mons that can phaze out setup sweepers, so Roar or something along those lines can be helpful.Oh thanks ill probably get round to breeding one then.
Can anyone suggest any other mons to go with mega audino and gastrodon
Your best bet against Garbodor are probably Xatu and strong special attackers with strong STAB moves like Magmortar and PyroarBest way to deal with Garbodor?
you could switch it in and then immediately switch out to a grass resist to scoutI would not switch in gastro vs garb on account of a decent amount of them running seed bomb
I'm convinced harvest is the only way to carve out a niche for trevenant, punch has theorymonned lum+rest for good recovery and in general maintaining the ability to deal with status. I don't think CB with natural cure is necessarily bad, but it definitely misses Gourgeist's access to shadow sneakLooking to get back into it (maybe?), I assume Cathy isn't exactly the most reliable set for Trevenant to run sadly.
Any good sets for Trevenant that have emerged that aren't just outclassed by Gourgiest?
Claydol is typically pretty mediocre defensively, but if you do opt to run that I'd suggest max HP / max Def. If you're interested in changing your claydol to a more standard build I'd suggest this:besides the colbur berry and soft sand, what is a good item for claydol(specifically a bulky attacking one)? i'm running the following (the only perfect iv i have for my current claydol is def, so ya i should prob breed a better one):
Claydol
Ability: Levitate
Level: 50
EVs: 252 Def / 4 SpA / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
- Psychic
- Ice Beam
- Stealth Rock/Rapid Spin (not sure which since i have a defogger, and i don't have a stealth rocks user on the team, so i'm leaning towards stealth rocks)
- Earth Power
tell me anything else i should change to make it better.
Honestly, Trevenant is just easily outclassed by Gourgeist in any defensive set. The most optimal one might be Choice Band w/ Natural Cure, as it has access to a few moves that Gourgeist can't use (Earthquake, Wood Hammer etc), albeit its lack of priority, being able to switch into Scalds/Status moves is always nice.Looking to get back into it (maybe?), I assume Cathy isn't exactly the most reliable set for Trevenant to run sadly.
Any good sets for Trevenant that have emerged that aren't just outclassed by Gourgiest?
Trevenant @ Choice Band
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Wood Hammer
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Rest / Shadow Claw
Yes. Lapras is a decent Water / Ice check that can do a lot of damage thanks to Choice Specs.Does Lapras have a niche in the tier?
Lapras @ Choice Specs
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Freeze-Dry
- Signal Beam
1. mediocre defensively? tbh i think a pretty good 105 def and great 120 sp def is good, maybe not a massive 200 def stat mon such as steelix (which has bad sp def of 65) and regirock (with a pretty good sp def stat of 100) or a greater 140 sp def stat mon that is mantine but its one of the more bulkier mons in split defenses, the only mediocre defensive stat is the 60 hp stat.K post: 6936568 said:Claydol is typically pretty mediocre defensively, but if you do opt to run that I'd suggest max HP / max Def. If you're interested in changing your claydol to a more standard build I'd suggest this:
Claydol @ Colbur Berry
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Rapid Spin
- Earth Power
- Shadow Ball
- Psyshock
Rapid Spin's far more niche than Stealth Rock so I'd run that on most teams. I'd also say that Leftovers and Passho berry are the other items I'd consider for claydol