I would like to request that the Base Stat submission topic be delayed until after the bias topics have been decided.
I argue for this because to make any worthwhile submission, you need to have at least some direction, and knowing the bias is enough to make thoughtful submissions.
I appreciate the energy in the topic, but it could be better used in more relevant areas, as currently about 90% of it is wasted energy.
I don't disagree with your intent here. I think it is somewhat of a waste of time to have detailed discussions of actual stat spreads, without the bias polls completed. However, if we do not have dedicated thread for this, people will just discuss stats in all the other threads. I addressed this concern a little earlier when X-Act asked about the purpose of the thread.
Yes that's the "public" reason for the thread. The "real" reason is to give a home to all the people that like to discuss stats in excruciating detail throughout the entire CAP process. As you can see in the thread right now, there's a lot of energy around stat discussions, even though we have NO CLUE about the final typing, bias, build -- anything really. But, people love to throw around stat spreads. So, rather than moderate these people into oblivion, we decided "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em".
I don't think all that discussion is going to waste. And presumably, some of those folks will stand out to Sunday when he goes to choose submitters.
I don't know why so many people like to talk about stat spreads so much so early. I don't really care why they like it. They obviously enjoy the discussion and they WILL discuss detailed stat spreads, whether we have a dedicated thread or not. That leaves me three choices:
1) Allow detailed stat spread discussions to sidetrack all the other CAP threads
2) Moderate every single stat spread post in all the other threads (ie. infract the posters for making off-topic posts)
3) Open a thread and let everyone have their discussion without sidetracking the rest of the project
Option 1 is what we had before, and it was unacceptable. Option 2 requires me to be even more of a hard-ass on everyone, as if I don't have a million off-topic posts to moderate already. I could do that, and I don't have a problem playing the heavy on this stuff, but I'd prefer not to. Therefore, we went with Option 3.
Aside from a few posts here and there, I think the post quality has been reasonable in that thread. I don't think the discussion has been a total waste. I also agree with X-Act regarding the "proving ground" for potential stat spread submitters. I think that thread has been relatively successful at achieving its real goals.