I'm really liking Milotic this format, ESPECIALLY now that Landorus-T is the 2nd most popular Pokemon on battlespot right now(Behind Mega-Khan).
While im not sure about LO, due to it sacrifises bulk which is Milotic's strongest point, Hydro Pump definely is viable option, as with enough SP atk investment, +2 Hydro can actually OHKO Mega Mawile, which alone is enough good reason to use it. Confuse Ray is not the best imo, as Milotic is not fast enough to abuse confusion hax and doesnt have paralyzing moves either (well, body slam and dragon breath, but both sucks hard). Plus Swagger is prob better due to it doubles confuson dmg (tho overall its more risky). Light Screen is pretty nice, tho. And Protect is good as always.Am I the only one who thinks OP is being a bit hasty in dismissing Life Orb? It helps to patch up Milotic's power problem (which has been a common criticism of Milotic here) so it helps Milotic to function a bit better offensively, especially if you don't get the Competitive boost. It also allows you to run status moves, which Assault Vest prevents you from doing. Hypnosis (I mean Hypnosis is shit but at least it's a sleep move,) Confuse Ray, Protect, and Light Screen, just to name a few.
Maybe Hydro Pump would be a usable move to patch up Milotic's low power? I mean, the accuracy is shit, but it's Milotic's strongest option.
I basically managed to get the same spread with the bold milotic I have (252 HP, 124 Def, 132 SpA), but is there anything she wants those speed evs to creep on?You waste 4 ev's on your spread for the assault vest. 212 defense will also get you to 126 and you can put those 4 ev's into speed to hit 102 speed.
Probably invest enough in order to outspeed 4 speed Rotom, which can be really handy. With 52 spe EVs, it does that. Other than that, not really everything else.I basically managed to get the same spread with the bold milotic I have (252 HP, 124 Def, 132 SpA), but is there anything she wants those speed evs to creep on?
You run recover on an AV Milotic?This is probably late but in singles I run Assault Vest Mirror Coat,Ice Beam,Recover and Scald
With such defensive set, Scald is way to go.Question!
I'm currently running a defensive Milotic:
Milotic @ Leftovers
Ability: Competitive
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Bold Nature
- Icy Wind
- Scald
- Ice Beam
- Recover
I'm thinking of removing Scald for Hydro Pump for more power. Does this seem like a good idea to anyone? Or should I keep Scald for the burn utility?
Seconding, but I feel like going overly defensive like that doesn't work very well in practice. Without the competitive boost you're hardly denting anything, and with it you're still not doing much damage.With such defensive set, Scald is way to go.
That's my conundrum. Given the faster pace of VGC, I was thinking it would probably be better if I had Hydro Pump for some power. Would I have been better to invest some of those def EVs into SpA?Seconding, but I feel like going overly defensive like that doesn't work very well in practice. Without the competitive boost you're hardly denting anything, and with it you're still not doing much damage.
I personally think that given Milotic's decent power, you should calc for key OHKOs with Ice Beam, without the +2, just to make sure you can pick them up(Salamence, Landorus, etc). As far as Scald vs Hydro Pump goes, the only real OHKO you get with +2 Hydro Pump is Mega Mawile, and that's if you don't miss (I can't stand shaky accuracy) Other important calcs would be how much damage Milotic has to do to pick up a KO if Milotic's partner uses a spread move or something like that. I don't view Milotic as an immediate offensive threat on my team, it is there in team preview to influence the opponent's team choice and punish those for using Intimidate and provide speed control while surviving for a few turns. I personally believe the burn chance of Scald is more attractive since you also run Recover thoThat's my conundrum. Given the faster pace of VGC, I was thinking it would probably be better if I had Hydro Pump for some power. Would I have been better to invest some of those def EVs into SpA?
my bad I don'tYou run recover on an AV Milotic?