Minority
Numquam Vincar
Hello everyone! It’s been so long hasn’t it?
Well maybe not… but for me it feels like it has been. ADV is that dream you can’t seem to forget, the one that sticks with you in the back of your head for the rest of the day. Within that dream, team diversity is abundant, yet there exists an immense stability; a tier where the battle can be a close race for its entirety that leaves you hanging onto the edge for as long as possible. The experience is a wonderful dance lead by Lati, Kyogre, and Groudon, with Pokemon from all three generations cutting in. With a good opponent you lose yourself as the dance goes on. There’s nothing to fear, but that pressure is surrounding; so many eyes are on you. You can’t help but want to represent the tier you love in the best possible ways.
Twice now I’ve prepared for ADV Ubers on its largest stage and twice found myself rediscovering such a beautiful tier. The journey down the rabbit hole began by selecting underdeveloped and / or interesting concepts that I knew I wanted to showcase. It was down here that these builds were examined, tested, discussed, and altered until I had a diverse group of teams that I was ready to bring back to the surface. In the end only five of these teams saw the light, but it’s time the rest of them climbed out of the darkness to join them. Putting the pieces of this labor all back together again represents a look into the fourteen builds I prepared for UPL IV. Naturally it’s hard to find both originality and effectiveness in a tier that is over a decade old, but in the end all it took was a little love.
Twice now I’ve prepared for ADV Ubers on its largest stage and twice found myself rediscovering such a beautiful tier. The journey down the rabbit hole began by selecting underdeveloped and / or interesting concepts that I knew I wanted to showcase. It was down here that these builds were examined, tested, discussed, and altered until I had a diverse group of teams that I was ready to bring back to the surface. In the end only five of these teams saw the light, but it’s time the rest of them climbed out of the darkness to join them. Putting the pieces of this labor all back together again represents a look into the fourteen builds I prepared for UPL IV. Naturally it’s hard to find both originality and effectiveness in a tier that is over a decade old, but in the end all it took was a little love.
Musical Basis:
Invasion Offense (Invasion | Savant)
Southern Sun Bulky Offense (Olas | Javier Rojas)
Operation Doomsday Hyper Offense (I Hear Voices | MF DOOM)
Oceania Rain Hyper Offense (Δυό Νύχτες Μόνο | Πασχάλης Τερζής)
Takeshi's Castle Sun Offense (Ikana Castle | Koji Kondo)
UPL IV Weather Control Bulky Offense (Aimin At Your Head | Pretty Lights)
Venomous Villain Spikes Hyper Offense (Pop Quiz | Viktor Vaughn)
King of Wobb Physical Offense (Heaterz | Wu-Tang Clan)
Double Weather Wish Mence Semi-Stall (Cipher Syndicate Theme | Tsukasa Tawada)
Vaudeville Villain Spikes Hyper Offense (Change The Beat | Viktor Vaughn)
Thunderclout Hyper Offense (Thunderclout | Savant)
Dark Dreamer Hyper Offense (Jhoto Boss Remix v.II | GlitchCity)
Damp Metal Stall (Dark Crystal | GlitchCity)
Poisonous Sun Stall (Black and White Relic Castle Remix | GlitchCity)
Invasion Offense (Invasion | Savant)
Southern Sun Bulky Offense (Olas | Javier Rojas)
Operation Doomsday Hyper Offense (I Hear Voices | MF DOOM)
Oceania Rain Hyper Offense (Δυό Νύχτες Μόνο | Πασχάλης Τερζής)
Takeshi's Castle Sun Offense (Ikana Castle | Koji Kondo)
UPL IV Weather Control Bulky Offense (Aimin At Your Head | Pretty Lights)
Venomous Villain Spikes Hyper Offense (Pop Quiz | Viktor Vaughn)
King of Wobb Physical Offense (Heaterz | Wu-Tang Clan)
Double Weather Wish Mence Semi-Stall (Cipher Syndicate Theme | Tsukasa Tawada)
Vaudeville Villain Spikes Hyper Offense (Change The Beat | Viktor Vaughn)
Thunderclout Hyper Offense (Thunderclout | Savant)
Dark Dreamer Hyper Offense (Jhoto Boss Remix v.II | GlitchCity)
Damp Metal Stall (Dark Crystal | GlitchCity)
Poisonous Sun Stall (Black and White Relic Castle Remix | GlitchCity)
Latios @ Soul Dew
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 156 HP / 252 SpA / 100 Spe
Modest Nature
- Calm Mind
- Recover
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
Kyogre @ Leftovers
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 240 HP / 252 Def / 16 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Thunder Wave
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
- Surf
Omastar @ Mystic Water
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 40 Def / 252 SpA / 216 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Toxic
- Spikes
- Ice Beam
- Hydro Pump
Regice @ Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 136 HP / 120 Atk / 252 SpA
Sassy Nature
- Psych Up
- Explosion
- Thunder
- Ice Beam
Steelix @ Choice Band
Ability: Rock Head
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Rock Slide
- Double-Edge
- Earthquake
- Explosion
Deoxys-Attack @ Petaya Berry
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Mild Nature
IVs: 30 HP
- Substitute
- Superpower
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 156 HP / 252 SpA / 100 Spe
Modest Nature
- Calm Mind
- Recover
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
Kyogre @ Leftovers
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 240 HP / 252 Def / 16 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Thunder Wave
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
- Surf
Omastar @ Mystic Water
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 40 Def / 252 SpA / 216 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Toxic
- Spikes
- Ice Beam
- Hydro Pump
Regice @ Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 136 HP / 120 Atk / 252 SpA
Sassy Nature
- Psych Up
- Explosion
- Thunder
- Ice Beam
Steelix @ Choice Band
Ability: Rock Head
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Rock Slide
- Double-Edge
- Earthquake
- Explosion
Deoxys-Attack @ Petaya Berry
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Mild Nature
IVs: 30 HP
- Substitute
- Superpower
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
Latios @ Soul Dew
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Calm Mind
- Recover
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
Groudon @ Leftovers
Ability: Drought
EVs: 224 HP / 252 SpD / 32 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Thunder Wave
- Rock Slide
- Earthquake
Ho-Oh @ Choice Band
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Sacred Fire
- Shadow Ball
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Double-Edge
Blissey @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
- Aromatherapy
- Toxic
- Soft-Boiled
- Seismic Toss
Aerodactyl @ Choice Band
Ability: Rock Head
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Toxic
- Earthquake
- Double-Edge
- Rock Slide
Exeggutor @ Leftovers
Ability: Chlorophyll
EVs: 116 Atk / 252 SpA / 140 Spe
Rash Nature
- Sleep Powder
- Stun Spore
- Solar Beam
- Explosion
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Calm Mind
- Recover
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
Groudon @ Leftovers
Ability: Drought
EVs: 224 HP / 252 SpD / 32 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Thunder Wave
- Rock Slide
- Earthquake
Ho-Oh @ Choice Band
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Sacred Fire
- Shadow Ball
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Double-Edge
Blissey @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
- Aromatherapy
- Toxic
- Soft-Boiled
- Seismic Toss
Aerodactyl @ Choice Band
Ability: Rock Head
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Toxic
- Earthquake
- Double-Edge
- Rock Slide
Exeggutor @ Leftovers
Ability: Chlorophyll
EVs: 116 Atk / 252 SpA / 140 Spe
Rash Nature
- Sleep Powder
- Stun Spore
- Solar Beam
- Explosion
The Groudon set is a high SpD invested paradancer so that it can tank certain special attacks, such as a Latios Ice Beam if needed in an emergency. CB Ho-Oh also functions as a potential wall breaker and for this squad runs a combination of Hidden Power Flying and Double-Edge in lieu of Earthquake. Toxic Toss Blissey felt necessary for the build even after looking at variants with Snorlax instead, mainly because of how the team matched up against Kyogre. Being able to take a stray T Wave and Toxic off of Latios and Groudon respectively was also handy. The final slot went to Aerodactyl, leaving the team with a Normal- and Flying-type resist yet without a Steel-type. This was ultimately because the team had Blissey as a status sponge for Toxic and because more coverage for opposing Ho-Oh was desired. Even after all the testing and altercations this team underwent it still has flaws, pretty much all of which I attribute to Exeggutor, but in the right matchup this team has proven to be highly effective.
Lugia @ Choice Band
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 108 HP / 252 Atk / 148 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Whirlwind
- Shadow Ball
- Earthquake
- Aeroblast
Groudon @ Salac Berry
Ability: Drought
EVs: 156 HP / 248 Atk / 104 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Substitute
- Hidden Power [Ghost]
- Earthquake
Kyogre @ Leftovers
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 224 HP / 252 Def / 32 Spe
Modest Nature
- Thunder Wave
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
- Surf
Latios @ Soul Dew
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Calm Mind
- Recover
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
Magneton @ Leftovers
Ability: Magnet Pull
EVs: 232 HP / 252 SpA / 24 Spe
Modest Nature
- Toxic
- Metal Sound
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Thunder
Deoxys-Attack @ Choice Band
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Extreme Speed
- Shadow Ball
- Superpower
- Double-Edge
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 108 HP / 252 Atk / 148 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Whirlwind
- Shadow Ball
- Earthquake
- Aeroblast
Groudon @ Salac Berry
Ability: Drought
EVs: 156 HP / 248 Atk / 104 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Substitute
- Hidden Power [Ghost]
- Earthquake
Kyogre @ Leftovers
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 224 HP / 252 Def / 32 Spe
Modest Nature
- Thunder Wave
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
- Surf
Latios @ Soul Dew
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Calm Mind
- Recover
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
Magneton @ Leftovers
Ability: Magnet Pull
EVs: 232 HP / 252 SpA / 24 Spe
Modest Nature
- Toxic
- Metal Sound
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Thunder
Deoxys-Attack @ Choice Band
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Extreme Speed
- Shadow Ball
- Superpower
- Double-Edge
Since this is double weather the Magneton set uses Thunder and HP Fire, giving a strong method to dispose of Steel-types regardless of rain or sun. Toxic is used mainly for Groudon switch-ins, but is also useful against non Refresh Lati. The bulky Kyogre set is for longevity, additional insurance against Groudon and Rayquaza, and so that Salac Groudon doesn't have to sponge as many hits. Thunder is used so that the team has more options for Kyogre checks. The team is rather effective at chipping opposing Kyogre, can eliminate Skarmory, and pressures opposing Lugia / Ho-Oh / Rayquaza well, making Salac Groudon an excellent win condition for this squad. For these reasons, I consider this to be the second most dangerous team here and one deserving of the title: Operation Doomsday.
Latios @ Soul Dew
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Calm Mind
- Recover
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
Kyogre @ Leftovers
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 180 HP / 252 SpA / 76 Spe
Modest Nature
- Toxic
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
- Hydro Pump
Latias @ Soul Dew
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 Spe
Bold Nature
- Calm Mind
- Refresh
- Recover
- Dragon Claw
Snorlax @ Choice Band
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 252 Atk / 244 SpD / 12 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Shadow Ball
- Focus Punch
- Body Slam
- Self-Destruct
Steelix @ Choice Band
Ability: Rock Head
EVs: 244 HP / 252 Atk / 12 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Toxic
- Double-Edge
- Earthquake
- Explosion
Mewtwo @ Lum Berry
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Mild Nature
- Calm Mind
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
- Self-Destruct
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Calm Mind
- Recover
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
Kyogre @ Leftovers
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 180 HP / 252 SpA / 76 Spe
Modest Nature
- Toxic
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
- Hydro Pump
Latias @ Soul Dew
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 Spe
Bold Nature
- Calm Mind
- Refresh
- Recover
- Dragon Claw
Snorlax @ Choice Band
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 252 Atk / 244 SpD / 12 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Shadow Ball
- Focus Punch
- Body Slam
- Self-Destruct
Steelix @ Choice Band
Ability: Rock Head
EVs: 244 HP / 252 Atk / 12 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Toxic
- Double-Edge
- Earthquake
- Explosion
Mewtwo @ Lum Berry
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Mild Nature
- Calm Mind
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
- Self-Destruct
The next two spots went to Steelix and Snorlax, providing some powerhouses on the physical spectrum that can also deal with Thunder rather well. I've become sort of notorious for running CB Steelix on rain offenses, and this is largely due to the fact that it's the best way to get an Electric immunity on these teams as Groudon makes it dual weather and Swampert or Flygon just don't fit well. The Steel-type for this build arrangement is necessary and ensures a Toxic immunity, a Normal-type resist, and a Flying-type resist. The details of the Snorlax and Steelix sets are the use of Focus Punch and Toxic respectively, where Toxic on Steelix is to eliminate Groudon and Ho-Oh Leftovers gain; the core members of most sun teams. The final slot was tricky to determine, but a mixed CM Mewtwo ended up being a good fit as it is most threatening under rain. This brings the total of boom users on this team to three, ideally opening up the opponent for the special powerhouses of Kyogre, Latios, and Latias.
Mewtwo @ Lum Berry
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Mild Nature
- Calm Mind
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
- Self-Destruct
Groudon @ Leftovers
Ability: Drought
EVs: 192 HP / 252 Atk / 64 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Thunder Wave
- Swords Dance
- Rock Slide
- Earthquake
Latios @ Soul Dew
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Calm Mind
- Refresh
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
Ho-Oh @ Choice Band
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Sacred Fire
- Shadow Ball
- Hidden Power Flying
- Double-Edge
Magneton @ Leftovers
Ability: Magnet Pull
EVs: 232 HP / 252 SpA / 24 Spe
Modest Nature
- Toxic
- Metal Sound
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Thunderbolt
Snorlax @ Leftovers
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 108 HP / 140 Atk / 252 SpD / 8 Spe
Careful Nature
- Curse
- Rest
- Shadow Ball
- Body Slam
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Mild Nature
- Calm Mind
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
- Self-Destruct
Groudon @ Leftovers
Ability: Drought
EVs: 192 HP / 252 Atk / 64 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Thunder Wave
- Swords Dance
- Rock Slide
- Earthquake
Latios @ Soul Dew
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Calm Mind
- Refresh
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
Ho-Oh @ Choice Band
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Sacred Fire
- Shadow Ball
- Hidden Power Flying
- Double-Edge
Magneton @ Leftovers
Ability: Magnet Pull
EVs: 232 HP / 252 SpA / 24 Spe
Modest Nature
- Toxic
- Metal Sound
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Thunderbolt
Snorlax @ Leftovers
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 108 HP / 140 Atk / 252 SpD / 8 Spe
Careful Nature
- Curse
- Rest
- Shadow Ball
- Body Slam
The Mewtwo lead is to get some early momentum and get chips or KOs on opposing Pokemon that I'll want gone for Groudon or Ho-Oh. As such, the paradancer Groudon and CB Ho-Oh are the primary workforce of the team when it comes to taking on more defensive squads. The discussion of the Ho-Oh set ended with running both Double-Edge and Hidden Power Flying over Earthquake, the same alternative I went with on the Southern Sun bulky offense. A major reason for this is because this team wants the extra damage output against Kyogre switch-ins, yet wants a good way to smack Blissey with a spamable move without having costly recoil. The Latios set runs Refresh without recover as the status sponge Snorlax cannot switch into the two most common sources of Thunder Wave: Groudon and Kyogre. Magneton is for Steel-type elimination and to offer the hallmarks of Steel-type synergy.
Latios @ Soul Dew
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Calm Mind
- Refresh
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
Kyogre @ Leftovers
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 224 HP / 252 Def / 32 Spe
Modest Nature
- Thunder Wave
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
- Hydro Pump
Groudon @ Leftovers
Ability: Drought
EVs: 180 HP / 252 Atk / 76 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Thunder Wave
- Rock Slide
- Earthquake
Snorlax @ Choice Band
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 252 Atk / 240 SpD / 16 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Shadow Ball
- Focus Punch
- Body Slam
- Self-Destruct
Registeel @ Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 112 Atk / 80 Def / 64 SpD
Impish Nature
- Curse
- Hidden Power [Ghost]
- Earthquake
- Explosion
Rayquaza @ Choice Band
Ability: Air Lock
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Extreme Speed
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Earthquake
- Double-Edge
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Calm Mind
- Refresh
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
Kyogre @ Leftovers
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 224 HP / 252 Def / 32 Spe
Modest Nature
- Thunder Wave
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
- Hydro Pump
Groudon @ Leftovers
Ability: Drought
EVs: 180 HP / 252 Atk / 76 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Thunder Wave
- Rock Slide
- Earthquake
Snorlax @ Choice Band
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 252 Atk / 240 SpD / 16 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Shadow Ball
- Focus Punch
- Body Slam
- Self-Destruct
Registeel @ Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 112 Atk / 80 Def / 64 SpD
Impish Nature
- Curse
- Hidden Power [Ghost]
- Earthquake
- Explosion
Rayquaza @ Choice Band
Ability: Air Lock
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Extreme Speed
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Earthquake
- Double-Edge
Deoxys-Speed @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 240 HP / 252 SpA / 16 Spe
Timid Nature
- Spikes
- Recover
- Knock Off
- Ice Beam
Kyogre @ Leftovers
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 224 HP / 252 Def / 32 Spe
Modest Nature
- Thunder Wave
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
- Hydro Pump
Latios @ Soul Dew
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Calm Mind
- Refresh
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
Snorlax @ Choice Band
Ability: Thick Fat
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 Atk / 240 SpD / 16 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Focus Punch
- Body Slam
- Self-Destruct
Tyranitar @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 148 HP / 108 Atk / 252 SpA
Naughty Nature
- Thunder
- Fire Blast
- Rock Slide
- Focus Punch
Gengar @ Magnet
Ability: Levitate
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Thunder
- Will-O-Wisp
- Shadow Ball
- Explosion
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 240 HP / 252 SpA / 16 Spe
Timid Nature
- Spikes
- Recover
- Knock Off
- Ice Beam
Kyogre @ Leftovers
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 224 HP / 252 Def / 32 Spe
Modest Nature
- Thunder Wave
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
- Hydro Pump
Latios @ Soul Dew
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Calm Mind
- Refresh
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
Snorlax @ Choice Band
Ability: Thick Fat
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 Atk / 240 SpD / 16 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Focus Punch
- Body Slam
- Self-Destruct
Tyranitar @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 148 HP / 108 Atk / 252 SpA
Naughty Nature
- Thunder
- Fire Blast
- Rock Slide
- Focus Punch
Gengar @ Magnet
Ability: Levitate
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Thunder
- Will-O-Wisp
- Shadow Ball
- Explosion
With these three rather uncommon Pokemon in position the rest of the team fell into place quickly. Kyogre is an immense defensive boon for this squad that was also desired for the additional protection against opposing Kyogre, Ho-Oh, and Groudon. Snorlax functions as the primary Lati check and benefits from the residual damage that wears on the opponent via Spikes. The team lacks a way to remove Thunder Wave or to really switch into it, so Latios runs Refresh. The Deoxys-S mainly runs Ice Beam as insurance against Sub Salac Groudon. The final build is a bit distorted in its focus and could potentially see some retouching, but has performed well in testing nonetheless combining a bizarre use of Tyranitar and Deoxys with elements of rain offense.
Slaking @ Choice Band
Ability: Truant
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Shadow Ball
- Return
- Focus Punch
- Double-Edge
Groudon @ Salac Berry
Ability: Drought
EVs: 156 HP / 248 Atk / 104 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Substitute
- Hidden Power [Ghost]
- Earthquake
Ho-Oh @ Choice Band
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Sacred Fire
- Shadow Ball
- Earthquake
- Double-Edge
Latios @ Soul Dew
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpD
Modest Nature
- Calm Mind
- Recover
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
Regice @ Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 136 HP / 120 Atk / 252 SpA
Sassy Nature
- Psych Up
- Explosion
- Thunder
- Ice Beam
Wobbuffet @ Lum Berry
Ability: Shadow Tag
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
- Safeguard
- Encore
- Counter
- Mirror Coat
Ability: Truant
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Shadow Ball
- Return
- Focus Punch
- Double-Edge
Groudon @ Salac Berry
Ability: Drought
EVs: 156 HP / 248 Atk / 104 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Substitute
- Hidden Power [Ghost]
- Earthquake
Ho-Oh @ Choice Band
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Sacred Fire
- Shadow Ball
- Earthquake
- Double-Edge
Latios @ Soul Dew
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpD
Modest Nature
- Calm Mind
- Recover
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
Regice @ Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 136 HP / 120 Atk / 252 SpA
Sassy Nature
- Psych Up
- Explosion
- Thunder
- Ice Beam
Wobbuffet @ Lum Berry
Ability: Shadow Tag
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
- Safeguard
- Encore
- Counter
- Mirror Coat
Latios @ Soul Dew
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 156 HP / 252 SpA / 100 Spe
Modest Nature
- Calm Mind
- Recover
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
Groudon @ Leftovers
Ability: Drought
EVs: 252 HP / 240 SpD / 16 Spe
Impish Nature
- Toxic
- Fire Blast
- Rock Slide
- Earthquake
Kyogre @ Leftovers
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 252 HP / 240 Def / 16 Spe
Modest Nature
- Calm Mind
- Thunder Wave
- Rest
- Surf
Blissey @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
- Calm Mind
- Soft-Boiled
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
Metagross @ Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 108 Atk / 132 SpD / 16 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Toxic
- Pursuit
- Earthquake
- Meteor Mash
Salamence @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Protect
- Toxic
- Wish
- Fire Blast
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 156 HP / 252 SpA / 100 Spe
Modest Nature
- Calm Mind
- Recover
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
Groudon @ Leftovers
Ability: Drought
EVs: 252 HP / 240 SpD / 16 Spe
Impish Nature
- Toxic
- Fire Blast
- Rock Slide
- Earthquake
Kyogre @ Leftovers
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 252 HP / 240 Def / 16 Spe
Modest Nature
- Calm Mind
- Thunder Wave
- Rest
- Surf
Blissey @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
- Calm Mind
- Soft-Boiled
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
Metagross @ Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 108 Atk / 132 SpD / 16 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Toxic
- Pursuit
- Earthquake
- Meteor Mash
Salamence @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Protect
- Toxic
- Wish
- Fire Blast
Deoxys-Speed @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 240 HP / 252 SpA / 16 Spe
Timid Nature
- Spikes
- Knock Off
- Fire Punch
- Ice Beam
Kyogre @ Salac Berry
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 156 HP / 248 SpA / 104 Spe
Modest Nature
- Calm Mind
- Substitute
- Ice Beam
- Hydro Pump
Latios @ Soul Dew
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Calm Mind
- Refresh
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
Snorlax @ Choice Band
Ability: Thick Fat
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 Atk / 240 SpD / 16 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Shadow Ball
- Earthquake
- Body Slam
- Self-Destruct
Groudon @ Leftovers
Ability: Drought
EVs: 180 HP / 252 Atk / 76 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Thunder Wave
- Rock Slide
- Earthquake
Aerodactyl @ Choice Band
Ability: Rock Head
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Hidden Power [Ghost]
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Double-Edge
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 240 HP / 252 SpA / 16 Spe
Timid Nature
- Spikes
- Knock Off
- Fire Punch
- Ice Beam
Kyogre @ Salac Berry
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 156 HP / 248 SpA / 104 Spe
Modest Nature
- Calm Mind
- Substitute
- Ice Beam
- Hydro Pump
Latios @ Soul Dew
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Calm Mind
- Refresh
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
Snorlax @ Choice Band
Ability: Thick Fat
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 Atk / 240 SpD / 16 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Shadow Ball
- Earthquake
- Body Slam
- Self-Destruct
Groudon @ Leftovers
Ability: Drought
EVs: 180 HP / 252 Atk / 76 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Thunder Wave
- Rock Slide
- Earthquake
Aerodactyl @ Choice Band
Ability: Rock Head
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Hidden Power [Ghost]
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Double-Edge
This is the team that I felt was more justified in using the Salac Kyogre set I was developing with Melee Mewtwo, although a Rest CM set or bulkier Sub set has it's merits as well. Overall the team has some solid firepower from both the physical and special side, while using double weather to help keep opposing weather-favoring teams in line. A point of interest is that the team does not have a Toxic immunity that can also crush Blissey, leaving the team somewhat annoyed by Toxic Toss Blissey variants. This problem arises from the fact that the team does not have the room to run a Steel-type. Melee Mewtwo and Dice have continually voiced this concern, and you can see its ramifications in my week 2 battle against SoulWind, although ultimately that loss was due to a single turn misplay with Deoxys rather than that being a major fault in the build. One option to help alleviate this is by running a Kyogre set that is able to handle this Blissey set easily, although this comes at other costs. This small point aside, I've found this to be perhaps the most potent Deoxys-S offense in ADV at the moment.
Mewtwo @ Lum Berry
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Mild Nature
- Calm Mind
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
- Self-Destruct
Kyogre @ Leftovers
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 240 HP / 252 Def / 16 Spe
Modest Nature
- Thunder Wave
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
- Surf
Latios @ Soul Dew
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Calm Mind
- Recover
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
Snorlax @ Choice Band
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 252 Atk / 240 SpD / 16 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Shadow Ball
- Earthquake
- Return
- Self-Destruct
Steelix @ Choice Band
Ability: Rock Head
EVs: 240 HP / 252 Atk / 16 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Toxic
- Double-Edge
- Earthquake
- Explosion
Raikou @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Calm Mind
- Substitute
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Thunder
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Mild Nature
- Calm Mind
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
- Self-Destruct
Kyogre @ Leftovers
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 240 HP / 252 Def / 16 Spe
Modest Nature
- Thunder Wave
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
- Surf
Latios @ Soul Dew
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Calm Mind
- Recover
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
Snorlax @ Choice Band
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 252 Atk / 240 SpD / 16 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Shadow Ball
- Earthquake
- Return
- Self-Destruct
Steelix @ Choice Band
Ability: Rock Head
EVs: 240 HP / 252 Atk / 16 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Toxic
- Double-Edge
- Earthquake
- Explosion
Raikou @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Calm Mind
- Substitute
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Thunder
Latios @ Soul Dew
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Calm Mind
- Recover
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
Kyogre @ Leftovers
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 224 HP / 252 Def / 32 Spe
Modest Nature
- Rest
- Calm Mind
- Ice Beam
- Surf
Groudon @ Salac Berry
Ability: Drought
EVs: 156 HP / 248 Atk / 104 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Substitute
- Swords Dance
- Rock Slide
- Earthquake
Umbreon @ Leftovers
Ability: Synchronize
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
- Taunt
- Wish
- Mean Look
- Baton Pass
Metagross @ Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 240 HP / 252 Atk / 16 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Pursuit
- Earthquake
- Meteor Mash
- Explosion
Deoxys-Attack @ Choice Band
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Extreme Speed
- Shadow Ball
- Superpower
- Double-Edge
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Calm Mind
- Recover
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
Kyogre @ Leftovers
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 224 HP / 252 Def / 32 Spe
Modest Nature
- Rest
- Calm Mind
- Ice Beam
- Surf
Groudon @ Salac Berry
Ability: Drought
EVs: 156 HP / 248 Atk / 104 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Substitute
- Swords Dance
- Rock Slide
- Earthquake
Umbreon @ Leftovers
Ability: Synchronize
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
- Taunt
- Wish
- Mean Look
- Baton Pass
Metagross @ Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 240 HP / 252 Atk / 16 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Pursuit
- Earthquake
- Meteor Mash
- Explosion
Deoxys-Attack @ Choice Band
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Extreme Speed
- Shadow Ball
- Superpower
- Double-Edge
The finalized build I came up with has many elements in common with Operation Doomsday; a double weather offense that finds room for a trapper and Deoxys-A. The major difference is the use of Umbreon as the trapper, which has substantial bulk to set Mean Look easily, has Taunt to render phazing moves unusable, and can proceed to pivot into an offensive Pokemon with a favorable matchup. This alters the remaining structure slightly because the team still needs to fit an offensive Steel, which ends up falling on Metagross to Pursuit trap opposing Deoxys-A and Shedinja, the later of which can actually annoy Umbreon. The team makes use of the two most threatening physical attackers in the game and the two most threatening special attackers in the game, three-quarters of which run setup moves. The result was the most dangerous team I prepared during UPL IV, which I had no intention of using and only built out of a morbid curiosity to understand just how far the rabbit hole goes. Never in my darkest of dreams would I have expected to see BP used by the opposing side in a UPL final. We put all the pieces back together again, now let's bury it.
Kyogre @ Leftovers
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 224 HP / 252 Def / 32 Spe
Modest Nature
- Protect
- Toxic
- Ice Beam
- Surf
Latias @ Soul Dew
Ability: Levitate
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 Spe
Bold Nature
- Calm Mind
- Refresh
- Recover
- Dragon Claw
Magneton @ Leftovers
Ability: Magnet Pull
EVs: 232 HP / 252 SpA / 24 Spe
Modest Nature
- Protect
- Toxic
- Metal Sound
- Thunder
Blissey @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
- Calm Mind
- Soft-Boiled
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
Forretress @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 24 Atk / 232 SpD
Impish Nature
- Spikes
- Rapid Spin
- Hidden Power [Ghost]
- Explosion
Swampert @ Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Toxic
- Roar
- Hidden Power [Ghost]
- Earthquake
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 224 HP / 252 Def / 32 Spe
Modest Nature
- Protect
- Toxic
- Ice Beam
- Surf
Latias @ Soul Dew
Ability: Levitate
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 Spe
Bold Nature
- Calm Mind
- Refresh
- Recover
- Dragon Claw
Magneton @ Leftovers
Ability: Magnet Pull
EVs: 232 HP / 252 SpA / 24 Spe
Modest Nature
- Protect
- Toxic
- Metal Sound
- Thunder
Blissey @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
- Calm Mind
- Soft-Boiled
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
Forretress @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 24 Atk / 232 SpD
Impish Nature
- Spikes
- Rapid Spin
- Hidden Power [Ghost]
- Explosion
Swampert @ Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Toxic
- Roar
- Hidden Power [Ghost]
- Earthquake
Groudon @ Leftovers
Ability: Drought
EVs: 252 HP / 240 SpD / 16 Spe
Impish Nature
- Toxic
- Fire Blast
- Rock Slide
- Earthquake
Kyogre @ Leftovers
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 252 HP / 240 Def / 16 Spe
Modest Nature
- Toxic
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
- Surf
Ho-Oh @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 180 Def / 76 Spe
Calm Nature
- Toxic
- Substitute
- Recover
- Sacred Fire
Blissey @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
- Calm Mind
- Soft-Boiled
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
Forretress @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Impish Nature
- Spikes
- Rapid Spin
- Earthquake
- Explosion
Latias @ Soul Dew
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
- Calm Mind
- Refresh
- Recover
- Dragon Claw
Ability: Drought
EVs: 252 HP / 240 SpD / 16 Spe
Impish Nature
- Toxic
- Fire Blast
- Rock Slide
- Earthquake
Kyogre @ Leftovers
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 252 HP / 240 Def / 16 Spe
Modest Nature
- Toxic
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
- Surf
Ho-Oh @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 180 Def / 76 Spe
Calm Nature
- Toxic
- Substitute
- Recover
- Sacred Fire
Blissey @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
- Calm Mind
- Soft-Boiled
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
Forretress @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Impish Nature
- Spikes
- Rapid Spin
- Earthquake
- Explosion
Latias @ Soul Dew
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
- Calm Mind
- Refresh
- Recover
- Dragon Claw
Drizzlers:
Melee Mewtwo: If Ubers was the Fire Nation you would be Iroh. Thank you for picking me up in UPL III, helping me test builds and giving me someone to throw ideas off of. Your thoughts on smogon culture, Pokemon, and game theory are enlightening.
Fireburn : Well you weren't actually on our team but you’re frequently in chat and testing ADV squads with you was very helpful. Thanks for introducing me to Reborn; it feels like a game that was custom made for me and it gave me the confidence that in-game Pokemon can still be fun.
Nayrz : You led our team to the highest win rate of UPL and did an amazing draft that got it all rolling. Thanks for being someone that stays on top of C&C for Ubers and puts up with all the crap in the viability thread.
dice : My problem with big words is that they make it harder to get a point across. Also ambiguity does not equate to depth. But seriously thanks for recommending Cowboy Bebop, it’s a really good series. And for the last time I don't like weiner.
Hack : Thanks for the ADV test matches and inspiring the Raikou build featured here. It would be cool to see you play ADV in UPL but I’m not so sure that will ever happen since managers probably want to slot you to newer gens.
BKC : The first battle I ever saw was Marriland vs. Untouchable.
WreckDra : I think we did like a dozen test matches with the damp metal stall I brought to the finals game. We weren’t really planning to get you on the team but it was worthwhile having you on the roster nonetheless.
Evuelf : Congrats on having the best record of the whole tour.
Jirachee : You’re a consistent DPP player and an interesting person to have on the team. Thanks for being so prompt when it came to helping me manage my ADV Ubers tournament last year.
Dilwar : Who? Just kidding.
benbe : Well you got an unfortunate pairing in R1 this seasonal but you’ve still got a shot at making playoffs.
Tricking : Wish you had been more active, I think you’re a pretty solid player and hope you make it to seasonals playoffs.
The Trap God : When Nayrz asked for my opinions on cheap but effective ORAS picks you were one of the players I recommended. Congrats on having a pretty strong record for your first UPL.
Dominatio : So far you’re the only tutee I’ve had that wanted to learn ADV Ubers. I think you asked me several times about my thought process when it comes to building in this tier so hopefully this thread made a lot of that clear.
Freeroamer : Also wish you didn’t drop off a cliff when it comes to activity. Good luck with your apprenticeship. I always say quitting Pokemon is a metagame trend so maybe you’ll be back eventually.
Forums:
Jibaku : You’re probably one of the users I respect the most on this site. I’d attribute that to your long experience in Ubers, views on tiering policy, and involvement with VGC and Battle Spot. I remember doing a lot of test matches with you back in early ORAS when you were working on balance builds in the Mega Rayquaza metagame. Late congrats on your Ubers success in SPL and being so casual about it.
Lord Outrage : I think you have the potential to be a great player, but only if you develop your winning mentality and drop the ego. Thank you for the feedback when I started team rating and also for revamping an important resource like sample teams. Also my taste in hip hop is better, Viktor Vaughn, Rakim, GZA, and Oskar Mike are unmatched at what they do.
Mr.378 : We don’t really talk that much, but like Jibaku I have a lot of respect for the fact that you’ve been playing competitive for so long. I think you did a pretty good job managing this year and had a lot of talent on your team, things just didn’t really work out.
Blue Jay : Super nice user and C&C inspiration. Come back from the dead please.
Transcendent God Champion : I might wish you 'good luck' in regards to your writing endeavors, however 'luck' is merely an illusory essentialization of statistics, and is neither inherently good nor bad.
Edgar : I think awhile back you really disliked me but maybe that’s all gone by now.
Kebabe : I admire your strong Ubers playing and your mistrust of authority.
jackm : You haven’t been around Ubers in a long time but I’ve stumbled upon some of your old posts from the BW era and found them really interesting.
Krauersaut : Despite being such a whiny, moody, attention-seeking user I'm still looking out for you, even if you might not think so.
steelphoenix : You probably have already, but check out Justice, Hippie Sabotage, Birdy Nam Nam, Feed Me, Sebastien Tellier, Gramatik, Parov Stelar, and Savant’s Thunderclout.
IronBullet : Thank you for all the opportunities that helped me grow as a user.
Fixed : Probably a zero percent chance you’re reading this but I’ll just say it was fun running into you multiple times at the top of the PO Ubers ladder two years ago. I also appreciated your posts in the Shadow Tag suspects.
Starmei : Don't sass me, your opinion =/= fact :O
ApplepieFTW : You'll probably be back sometime.
Thugly Duckling : Not sure why you joined and then dropped out of seasonals, you had a chance to make playoffs.
Piexplode: What happened to you? You were one of the most active users when I first joined Smogon.
P Squared + The Dutch Plumberjack + Snobalt : Thank you for putting up with my atrocious spelling and GP checking those disgusting 5 set analyses. You’ve been really committed to GP checking Ubers analyses for awhile now so thank you.
Ubers Room Staff and Regulars:
shrang : You’re one of the easiest staff to talk to and a major component of why the room culture is what it is (this is a good thing btw). Your use of showimage, lower patience for clown fiesta users, knowledge of RLM, and use of horses is very amusing. Please stick around well into your forties and continue to foster new users.
Sweep : Drunk laddering and joke promotes aside thanks for all the forum and C&C support you’ve given me over the last couple years.
Aurora : You’re an interesting person and fun to talk to. We should like co-write a romance novel just for giggles.
Iris : Well your coup d'état of the Ubers room was successful despite only taking like a year. My offer to teach you ADV in exchange for DPP still stands btw.
PoMMan : I think I already told you this, but I never saw your name as pornman until the Ubers room spammed it over and over and over again.
Aqua’s Swirlix: We don’t talk much, but you’re always there. Like a watchful protector.
Blim : I think you’re the author of some of my favorite Smogon quotes. We could use more players that are not only skilled, but also levelheaded and modest.
DracoMaster Dab : Guess you’ve become kinda inactive. Maybe stop by more?
Haruno : lol our dynamic sure has evolved over the years. Maybe I’ll meet you in SF at some VGC event someday.
haxiom : You moderate RMT, which means you have constant interaction with the newest of Smogon users so props for that. Thank you for helping me develop my team rating and being involved with the staff RMTs.
James Jimmy : Your appreciation for booze and Greek music is enough to make us friends.
Level 56 : I’ve been impressed with your consistent tour performance for like the past couple years. Annoying you had to fight Hack in round 1 of seasonals this time around but his weird techs didn’t seem to phase you at all.
orch : You should probs just write the Whimsicott analysis yourself, I don’t think anyone else has quite the passion for the mon that you do.
Pohjis : I'd say you're part of that new wave of ORAS players that are taking high seeds in the seasonals rankings. You might be lucky but you also know what you’re doing.
polop : I sorta looked up to your C&C work when I first joined the site. Turns out I didn’t become competent until you returned from the long hiatus.
soviet : Go green \//\
SparksBlade : Wrong is sometimes right. In is often out. And sometimes up may be the only way down.
ZoroarkForever : Thanks for investing in ADV Ubers, representing old gens, and representing Ubers players outside of the tier. You’re a good player and I hope you make seasonals playoffs.
Antacool : Your use of Mega Steelix and Solrock is questionable, but then again I ladder with coffee tables so…
canman98 : Come back and write analyses when gen 7 comes out okay?
Crestfall : Tell me about some of your weirdest experiences being an RP RO sometime.
hyw : I’ve found some of the things you’ve said to me really disgusting and offensive, but I think you’re joking (I hope?). Anyways you're a pretty active user even if you do shitpost a lot so it was only fair to mention you.
Optic Gaga: For the last time, it is my God given right and protected under the second amendment to operate a flamethrower that is capable of shooting over 50 feet.
Peli : Wow I actually remember back when you had a Pelipper avy and everything, tho I guess that wasn’t that long ago.
ShadowQuinn : I also consider you part of that new wave of ORAS players. Thank you for your interest in ADV.
Theorymon : Thanks for helping me build some VGC 2016 squads, launching Ubers multi gen, and being an all around dedicated Pokemon nerd.
Vileman : Strange you use Daft Punk avys but I’ve never heard you talk about them.
0kay : If I had to rate you as I user I’d say you’re… Decent. Anyways get back to that Reborn play through, you won’t regret it.
Arii Stella : We haven't had much direction interaction but maybe sometime in the future.
absdaddy : Are you still using that Explosion Smeargle and BP Celebi team?
Astounded : We haven’t really ever talked but I think we’re cool.
Chubby Penguins: I probably won’t ever lose respect for your ability to dismantle the ladder.
darrell1297 : You play reborn so that makes you fun to talk to already.
Jhonx~ : Thanks for being an active tutee and willing to try lots of new things.
Joryn : Quitting Pokemon is a metagame trend. You of all people should know this Joryn.
ogasian : So what exactly is a Facepalm’s Plot anyways? Actually nvm that sounds like something sexual.
Lacus Clyne : Congrats on your last seasonals win. Hit me up if you ever want to work on cool forum projects.
Muk : I have to admit that the best MCs are probably Vanilla Ice, Shaq, and Will Smith.
magsyy : You have so much to learn about girls… Please don't do anything stupid like getting yourself arrested over some silly drama.
Mr. Perry : You were my first tutee and pretty active (and still are) so thanks for that.
shrop05 : Come back to the Ubers room, but only if you cut down on posting 2D girls.
If I missed anyone I promise it probably wasn't intentional. We can still be friends
Melee Mewtwo: If Ubers was the Fire Nation you would be Iroh. Thank you for picking me up in UPL III, helping me test builds and giving me someone to throw ideas off of. Your thoughts on smogon culture, Pokemon, and game theory are enlightening.
Fireburn : Well you weren't actually on our team but you’re frequently in chat and testing ADV squads with you was very helpful. Thanks for introducing me to Reborn; it feels like a game that was custom made for me and it gave me the confidence that in-game Pokemon can still be fun.
Nayrz : You led our team to the highest win rate of UPL and did an amazing draft that got it all rolling. Thanks for being someone that stays on top of C&C for Ubers and puts up with all the crap in the viability thread.
dice : My problem with big words is that they make it harder to get a point across. Also ambiguity does not equate to depth. But seriously thanks for recommending Cowboy Bebop, it’s a really good series. And for the last time I don't like weiner.
Hack : Thanks for the ADV test matches and inspiring the Raikou build featured here. It would be cool to see you play ADV in UPL but I’m not so sure that will ever happen since managers probably want to slot you to newer gens.
BKC : The first battle I ever saw was Marriland vs. Untouchable.
WreckDra : I think we did like a dozen test matches with the damp metal stall I brought to the finals game. We weren’t really planning to get you on the team but it was worthwhile having you on the roster nonetheless.
Evuelf : Congrats on having the best record of the whole tour.
Jirachee : You’re a consistent DPP player and an interesting person to have on the team. Thanks for being so prompt when it came to helping me manage my ADV Ubers tournament last year.
Dilwar : Who? Just kidding.
benbe : Well you got an unfortunate pairing in R1 this seasonal but you’ve still got a shot at making playoffs.
Tricking : Wish you had been more active, I think you’re a pretty solid player and hope you make it to seasonals playoffs.
The Trap God : When Nayrz asked for my opinions on cheap but effective ORAS picks you were one of the players I recommended. Congrats on having a pretty strong record for your first UPL.
Dominatio : So far you’re the only tutee I’ve had that wanted to learn ADV Ubers. I think you asked me several times about my thought process when it comes to building in this tier so hopefully this thread made a lot of that clear.
Freeroamer : Also wish you didn’t drop off a cliff when it comes to activity. Good luck with your apprenticeship. I always say quitting Pokemon is a metagame trend so maybe you’ll be back eventually.
Forums:
Jibaku : You’re probably one of the users I respect the most on this site. I’d attribute that to your long experience in Ubers, views on tiering policy, and involvement with VGC and Battle Spot. I remember doing a lot of test matches with you back in early ORAS when you were working on balance builds in the Mega Rayquaza metagame. Late congrats on your Ubers success in SPL and being so casual about it.
Lord Outrage : I think you have the potential to be a great player, but only if you develop your winning mentality and drop the ego. Thank you for the feedback when I started team rating and also for revamping an important resource like sample teams. Also my taste in hip hop is better, Viktor Vaughn, Rakim, GZA, and Oskar Mike are unmatched at what they do.
Mr.378 : We don’t really talk that much, but like Jibaku I have a lot of respect for the fact that you’ve been playing competitive for so long. I think you did a pretty good job managing this year and had a lot of talent on your team, things just didn’t really work out.
Blue Jay : Super nice user and C&C inspiration. Come back from the dead please.
Transcendent God Champion : I might wish you 'good luck' in regards to your writing endeavors, however 'luck' is merely an illusory essentialization of statistics, and is neither inherently good nor bad.
Edgar : I think awhile back you really disliked me but maybe that’s all gone by now.
Kebabe : I admire your strong Ubers playing and your mistrust of authority.
jackm : You haven’t been around Ubers in a long time but I’ve stumbled upon some of your old posts from the BW era and found them really interesting.
Krauersaut : Despite being such a whiny, moody, attention-seeking user I'm still looking out for you, even if you might not think so.
steelphoenix : You probably have already, but check out Justice, Hippie Sabotage, Birdy Nam Nam, Feed Me, Sebastien Tellier, Gramatik, Parov Stelar, and Savant’s Thunderclout.
IronBullet : Thank you for all the opportunities that helped me grow as a user.
Fixed : Probably a zero percent chance you’re reading this but I’ll just say it was fun running into you multiple times at the top of the PO Ubers ladder two years ago. I also appreciated your posts in the Shadow Tag suspects.
Starmei : Don't sass me, your opinion =/= fact :O
ApplepieFTW : You'll probably be back sometime.
Thugly Duckling : Not sure why you joined and then dropped out of seasonals, you had a chance to make playoffs.
Piexplode: What happened to you? You were one of the most active users when I first joined Smogon.
P Squared + The Dutch Plumberjack + Snobalt : Thank you for putting up with my atrocious spelling and GP checking those disgusting 5 set analyses. You’ve been really committed to GP checking Ubers analyses for awhile now so thank you.
Ubers Room Staff and Regulars:
shrang : You’re one of the easiest staff to talk to and a major component of why the room culture is what it is (this is a good thing btw). Your use of showimage, lower patience for clown fiesta users, knowledge of RLM, and use of horses is very amusing. Please stick around well into your forties and continue to foster new users.
Sweep : Drunk laddering and joke promotes aside thanks for all the forum and C&C support you’ve given me over the last couple years.
Aurora : You’re an interesting person and fun to talk to. We should like co-write a romance novel just for giggles.
Iris : Well your coup d'état of the Ubers room was successful despite only taking like a year. My offer to teach you ADV in exchange for DPP still stands btw.
PoMMan : I think I already told you this, but I never saw your name as pornman until the Ubers room spammed it over and over and over again.
Aqua’s Swirlix: We don’t talk much, but you’re always there. Like a watchful protector.
Blim : I think you’re the author of some of my favorite Smogon quotes. We could use more players that are not only skilled, but also levelheaded and modest.
DracoMaster Dab : Guess you’ve become kinda inactive. Maybe stop by more?
Haruno : lol our dynamic sure has evolved over the years. Maybe I’ll meet you in SF at some VGC event someday.
haxiom : You moderate RMT, which means you have constant interaction with the newest of Smogon users so props for that. Thank you for helping me develop my team rating and being involved with the staff RMTs.
James Jimmy : Your appreciation for booze and Greek music is enough to make us friends.
Level 56 : I’ve been impressed with your consistent tour performance for like the past couple years. Annoying you had to fight Hack in round 1 of seasonals this time around but his weird techs didn’t seem to phase you at all.
orch : You should probs just write the Whimsicott analysis yourself, I don’t think anyone else has quite the passion for the mon that you do.
Pohjis : I'd say you're part of that new wave of ORAS players that are taking high seeds in the seasonals rankings. You might be lucky but you also know what you’re doing.
polop : I sorta looked up to your C&C work when I first joined the site. Turns out I didn’t become competent until you returned from the long hiatus.
soviet : Go green \//\
SparksBlade : Wrong is sometimes right. In is often out. And sometimes up may be the only way down.
ZoroarkForever : Thanks for investing in ADV Ubers, representing old gens, and representing Ubers players outside of the tier. You’re a good player and I hope you make seasonals playoffs.
Antacool : Your use of Mega Steelix and Solrock is questionable, but then again I ladder with coffee tables so…
canman98 : Come back and write analyses when gen 7 comes out okay?
Crestfall : Tell me about some of your weirdest experiences being an RP RO sometime.
hyw : I’ve found some of the things you’ve said to me really disgusting and offensive, but I think you’re joking (I hope?). Anyways you're a pretty active user even if you do shitpost a lot so it was only fair to mention you.
Optic Gaga: For the last time, it is my God given right and protected under the second amendment to operate a flamethrower that is capable of shooting over 50 feet.
Peli : Wow I actually remember back when you had a Pelipper avy and everything, tho I guess that wasn’t that long ago.
ShadowQuinn : I also consider you part of that new wave of ORAS players. Thank you for your interest in ADV.
Theorymon : Thanks for helping me build some VGC 2016 squads, launching Ubers multi gen, and being an all around dedicated Pokemon nerd.
Vileman : Strange you use Daft Punk avys but I’ve never heard you talk about them.
0kay : If I had to rate you as I user I’d say you’re… Decent. Anyways get back to that Reborn play through, you won’t regret it.
Arii Stella : We haven't had much direction interaction but maybe sometime in the future.
absdaddy : Are you still using that Explosion Smeargle and BP Celebi team?
Astounded : We haven’t really ever talked but I think we’re cool.
Chubby Penguins: I probably won’t ever lose respect for your ability to dismantle the ladder.
darrell1297 : You play reborn so that makes you fun to talk to already.
Jhonx~ : Thanks for being an active tutee and willing to try lots of new things.
Joryn : Quitting Pokemon is a metagame trend. You of all people should know this Joryn.
ogasian : So what exactly is a Facepalm’s Plot anyways? Actually nvm that sounds like something sexual.
Lacus Clyne : Congrats on your last seasonals win. Hit me up if you ever want to work on cool forum projects.
Muk : I have to admit that the best MCs are probably Vanilla Ice, Shaq, and Will Smith.
magsyy : You have so much to learn about girls… Please don't do anything stupid like getting yourself arrested over some silly drama.
Mr. Perry : You were my first tutee and pretty active (and still are) so thanks for that.
shrop05 : Come back to the Ubers room, but only if you cut down on posting 2D girls.
If I missed anyone I promise it probably wasn't intentional. We can still be friends
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