It might not go through, since there's no way to get a legitimate Shadow Tag Chandelure.
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Data Old Pokemon With New Abilities : How Will it Affect Them?
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Well chandelure never got shadow tag in 5rh gen so for him the problem is solved.
Scolipede though might worth a try, but speed boost is so much better than quick feet that we don't really care.
I can actually confirm due to the Battle Maison that Empoleon still has Defiant. Sorry.
Ferrothorn... How awesome would something like Sturdy have been?
What is this anticipation crap... "o noes they DO have a fire move!"
What is this anticipation crap... "o noes they DO have a fire move!"
There is a point made earlier in this thread. A Ferrothorn user now knows if they switch into something with HP Fire. Not like it will help Ferro survive the HP Fire, but as long as it doesn't switch into it it has an opportunity to get out of there.
Still, Iron Barbs is better.
Why do you hate me Game Freak!!? Oh well at least Scolipede gets Speed Boost and an attack stat boost. I'd probably use it at as a sweeper with life orb instead of a baton passer. I think Pede will make UU this gen
I still don't like its stats. I don't see it moving anywhere above NU (not even top NU)
we don't know, because we can't transfer pokes from unova to kalos yet. we need to wait for pokemon bank to release in december.
I know, but he'll have a niche.
What I mean is that the OP forgot to mention him even though he remember Plusle and Minun.
Meh...Empoleon already got a pretty useful buff with being an offensive Steel-type (getting rid of Fairies and walling Fairies), so I'm not complaining about Defiant.
As for the others, whoo boy!
Scolipede looks like a very threatening Pokemon now. Higher Attack plus Speed Boost with a good movepool (supportive and offensively) will make this thing much more unpredictable.
Chandelure losing Shadow Tag for Infiltrator is not really too much of a loss. Remember that Ghosts are no longer affected by Shadow Tag, Mean Look, etc. Infiltrator is a bit of a consolation as well. Being able to go right through Substitutes with a base 145 Sp. Attack is ridiculous.
Anticipation ferrothorn is actually pretty handy for garchomp, dragonite, espeon, jolteon, lati@s, rotom-w, venusaur, and somewhat useful for tyranitar. Anything that just completely gives you information is great. If you know jolteon has HP fire for example then your landorus doesn't need to fear it.
Least Pokebank lets us move whole PC boxes instead of 6 pokes at a time, once a day. And doesn't require 2 DS.
I could see Pede maybe making a small niche for itself in OU, situationaly, to cover a gap in certain teams. I doubt it will be widespread use, though.
because it might have been the only way to do so without requiring you to have 2 3DSs (which would cost a lot more) or a friend who also happens to have an 3ds. be happy they are not making you pay $100 in DLC or something.
Seriously? They literally couldn't do it any other way as DS and 3DS games can't communicate with each other. They need money to keep the Pokebank open. It isn't free to run. Seriously, its 5 USD per YEAR. That's a whopping 1.3 cents per day. If you can't afford that, what on earth are you doing with a 3DS?
Anyway, Scolipede seems way better in OU than just having a random niche. It has Speed boost+Spikes AND Tspikes, Baton Pass, and SD, the ability to outspeed scarf Latios, Terrakion, Keldeo, and pretty much anything else after a single turn. Plus, it can actually take a hit once and a while, unlike Ninjask, and it also hits pretty hard with its buffed base attack this generation, unlike Ninjask. (Not that Ninjask is good or anything)
Yeah, anticipation is cool, but is it worth giving up that sexy 12.5% damage for each contact move? That stuff stacks up quickly with LO recoil, and I've stopped more than one Lucario (for example) sweep by using it. Also it doesn't tell you the Hidden Power type so yeah. On Latios it will obviously be fire, but Rotom-W could use Ice and so could Jolteon and Espeon
On other topics, Scoliopede will be godly and top-teir OU. It's attack is lower that Blaziken, but in exchange for that it gets blazing speed that lessens the need to use Protect, allowing it to run a coverage move such as Earthquake in addition to its two STABs.
Thank god for Chandelure. I played against that guy in DW OU and Uber back when that was a thing. There was essentially no way to stop it outside of running Shed Shell on half your team or mandatory Pursuit support. Ofc, Mega Gengar will be a thing now, so we didn't really get saved too much...
Ferro is only weak to fire and fighting and most pokemon only have one or the other. Iron Barbs is probably better 80% of the time. Lately i've been saccing Ferro into Talonflame a lot because it just dies after BraveBird or FlareBlitz + contact. When anticipation is released I will definitely be trying it out, in particular for its use against Garchomp and Espeon who bluff a lot, force out Ferro, and set up their own rocks or screens.
Wait a moment, I thought anticipation does not work for hidden power, since it is a 'normal' move by default. I hope I am wrong--it'd be great to know when their Vaporeon is running HP fire (I've seen it done and lost a Ferrothorn to it once)
Milotic now gets competetive. Whille she may appreciate the defense boost of marvel scale more, a little boost to her 100 special attack is still nice. It's too bad her main attacking moves got nerfed though
It doesn't alert you of Hidden Power.
i have a driblim with flare boost (if its burned, it's SpA increases)
not sure how much this will help it but it's a pretty badass ability
not sure how much this will help it but it's a pretty badass ability
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