Doublade is listed now. Not sure if there's another mon missing or not. Let me know if there is.Also, why doublade and aren't listed?
Fixed Kyurem's and Mega-Camerupt's placements.Hey, just one minor nitpick: Kyurem's Sub+Roost Rest is now in C Rank, but its set isn't (currently stated as C-).
And one question: Togekiss' Nastyplot set is in B+, can you specify which one do you mean? In the Dex, there're two sets, the Stallbreaker Nastyplot Set (offensive), and the SpD Nastypass Set.
Thank you!
Edit: Same with M-Camerupt. Now in C- Rank, Set stated as C Rank. And Ditto is now unranked, but yeah. It's new.
That should be it, thank you. :)
MienshaoDoublade is listed now. Not sure if there's another mon missing or not. Let me know if there is.
Fixed Kyurem's and Mega-Camerupt's placements.
About Togekiss: Not really sure how to go about this tbh. The set I had in mind when I made the ranking was the stallbreaker set. Does the BP set warrant its own ranking? Interested to see what others have to say. BP Toge is frustratingly slow and the SR weakness hurts, but its bulk and typing are pretty great, and the BP set still maintains some of the stall breaking capabilities of the fully offensive set, so I could see it warranting an individual ranking.
I'll add the offensive Nasty Plot set for Slowking. TR seems pretty niche, so I'm a bit skeptical about adding it. I'm just thinking that 100 base special attack without boosting (aside from LO) is pretty underwhelming, and something like Reuniclus could pull off an offensive TR set more effectively. If anyone has replays showing what TR Slowking can do, I would be open to adding it though.Why is there no mention of offensive Slowking sets? With the same offensive stats, the ability to run a +SpA nature and regenerator to offset life orb you have a potential wallbreaker/TR sweeper.
Toxicroak can also run a (clearly inferior) greedy All-out attacker set with Ice Punch on teams that desperately lack coverage.
I agree. Done.ScarfTran could probably go to A. Not exactly the most consistent set in the world but surprisingly effective. Probably needs to run Timid nowadays but huge high risk high reward potential. It can switch in on a ton of stuff in OU to some degree outside of Keldeo. Great for getting the jump on Metagross, Gengar, Diancie, Pinsir, and a bunch of other things that think that they can pick you off with whatever coverage they have. Of course the risk is that you switch into the wrong coverage move but overall solid omni-check to a bunch of stuff.
Agree with both. Done.I'd probably consider bumpin Scolis offensive set to B-. It's better than C+ just takes a bit of work to get it going with fat grounds around. I think Scarf Thundy-T should go to C simply for the fact Agility set is just way better if you want something for speed.
I'll try to figure something out.could these actually have the pkmn's name, it's impossible to search any set's viability v efficiently
thanks :D
Reposting cuz I haven't seen anything on thisDefensive mega Venusaur > A
The set is honestly on par with the offensive set, if not better. The reason being because it can live hits that the offensive set can't, with the biggest example being Landorus Is a earth power. Given that psychic is practically nonexistent at this point, having a mon that can beat it 1v1 especially on a balance team is incredibly important and often overlooked, since this requires SpDef investment (which is by no means a burden on Venu). Furthermore, defensive Venusaur is not nearly as pressured by "water spam" as the offensive set is due to the fact that it takes on average 20ish percent less from important attacks like scalds and play roughs, which gives it a buffer against these mons to be able to actually attack and not have to spam synthesis to stay healthy. This really comes into play when mega Venu gets burned. Moreover, defensive mega Venu takes on mons such as Mega Diancie and Bisharp much better than offensive variants because a random SpDef drop or iron head flinch won't spell its doom. Yeah it's hax but it's still something that can make or break a game, and I'd rather be safe than sorry.
Granted, the defensive set is much less threatening to its checks than the offensive set, but this issue is all but mitigated by the added defensive utility that is invaluable in many scenarios.
Pretty much, yeah. Slowking has more "traditional" coverage over Reuniclus but the fact that you need to hide the set would have made it a solid ben gay rank.theurbandear you coukd probably throw both Nasty Plot Slowking and Offensive Trick Room Slowking under some kind of "set-up Slowking" category as the EVs and movesets on the two are usually similar and Trick Room could be seen as a way of setting-up.
Espeon is still in C- in the main rankings.Why is Espeon still ranked? GeoPass is genuine ass and Espeon isn't even ranked on the main rankings anymore.
Geopass has proven itself to (unfortunately) work as a strategy, hence why Espeon is still ranked both here and there.Why is Espeon still ranked? GeoPass is genuine ass and Espeon isn't even ranked on the main rankings anymore.
Oh lol i thought it'd been removed. My bad ;;;Espeon is still in C- in the main rankings.
That ranking change and others were made last night, and I just haven't got around to updating the OP yet. Not trying to be rude, but there's no need to clutter the thread with reminders/one liners like this. For the record, I promise I'm still keeping track of VR changes, and I'll add them when I can. However if I don't make a change for a couple of days or something, just PM me bro. n_nRotom heat is c- rank now
I can see a LO set being usable, so I'll add that. I'm not familiar with Emboar at all though, so could you elaborate some on the SubPunch set? It just seems awfully team specific with the amount of support it would require. However, never used it, so I could be entirely wrong.LO and Sub Punch should be listed on Emboar sets as they are easily Emboar's best sets, far outclassing choiced Emboar.
In fact these sets are the reason Emboar needs to get the hell out of D rank but every time it escapes people send it back in...