Well be happy cuz it's the 4th fastest non mega ghost type, and there's 15 fully evolved ghost typesYeay, but does like 6% damage
And 99 is not fast anymore, heck, 110 is barely good enough
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(Not counting arceus ghost)
Well be happy cuz it's the 4th fastest non mega ghost type, and there's 15 fully evolved ghost typesYeay, but does like 6% damage
And 99 is not fast anymore, heck, 110 is barely good enough
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RU Kidding? Spirt shackle and his versatility will get decidueye banned from RU IF he isn't somehow in UU. (Maybe he'll stay in RU for a bit but will get banned sooner or later)
With a movepool like this, Decidiueye shouldn't be looked at as just a Shackle spammer by any means. If you have something you feel you can switch in, depending on what decidueye is running you might be wrong. Example being ttar or bisharp thinking he can eat a stab from decidueye for free and getting low sweeped. It doesn't have to rely on mindlessly mashing spirit shackle by any means. There's also always the option to read a switch and just uturn out.Spirit Shackle is good in that itll stop double switching but people have to remember that if the opponent didnt switch you out their pokemon before you spirit shackle then its obviously because they think that pokemon can handle Decidueye or its late game and they have no better options in either case it doesnt matter. If I switch in a pokemon into Decidueye I'm clearly not that scared of being trapped. You cant baton pass and keep the trap up so if you switch into something that handles the trapped pokemon itll switch out. A damaging mean look is good dont get me wrong but just like mean look its easily played around. I still have problems with its bulk and weaknesses when its at the speed tier it is...pretty much any team is gonna have multiple 70+ speed mons that carry Dark/Ghost/Fire/Ice/Flying which makes it easy to check. I wouldnt be shocked if it does become UU but its far from a lock, its not amazing versatile trapper some people are making it out to be.
This. Plus it allows you to catch and soft trap bulky Steels and the like that might normally like to switch in, then U-Turn/Baton Pass to kill them with a proper trapper, i.e. Magnezone or Dugtrio. That's something that I think is probably better in practice than it sounds on paper. Simply having a trapper on your team makes them cautious of what to switch in on Decidueye. They need something that can take a STAB Spirit Shackle or a pretty strong U-Turn and can also handle the trapper.With a movepool like this, Decidiueye shouldn't be looked at as just a Shackle spammer by any means. If you have something you feel you can switch in, depending on what decidueye is running you might be wrong. Example being ttar or bisharp thinking he can eat a stab from decidueye for free and getting low sweeped. It doesn't have to rely on mindlessly mashing spirit shackle by any means. There's also always the option to read a switch and just uturn out.
Not when I switch to something with arena trap/shadow tag/magnet pullIf I switch in a pokemon into Decidueye I'm clearly not that scared of being trapped. You cant baton pass and keep the trap up so if you switch into something that handles the trapped pokemon itll switch out.
Any Pokémon can switch into an arena trap/shadow tag mon, that's not a Decidueye thing.Not when I switch to something with arena trap/shadow tag/magnet pull
The thing is that Decidueye can do that without relying on predicting the switch-in. If Decidueye threatens something with a STAB Spirit Shackle, the switch-in risks being trapped. That significant added bonus on a spammable STAB can really not be overstated. I doubt it's enough to cement it in OU, especially with so much other good stuff this gen, but it's enough that it'll probably see some play there as part of a trapping core or a pivot with Defog (similar to Celebi).I think thats fine, it has a solid niche...I dont think its trash by any
Any Pokémon can switch into an arena trap/shadow tag mon, that's not a Decidueye thing.
Not everything can be Mega Beedrill, you know.Leave it to GF to ruin the grass starter of this generation. It could have been so much better with 80/80/80 bulk and 108/56/124 attacking stats with the possibility of having access to hjk or jk by breeding with the hawlucha or dodrio family, but instead we get this poorly distributed piece of garbage. As is I'd say it'll sit in ru with venusaur.
It would not be as powerful as mega beedrill thanks to it lacking adaptibility, and lacking the same speed tier. It would however be able to withstand super effective physical hits unlike mega beedrill.Not everything can be Mega Beedrill, you know.
My point is that Mega Beedrill has unusually well-distributed stats and it's unreasonable to expect many other Pokemon to be so efficient, especially a starter since Gamefreak tries to design those so that kiddies can just spam any attacking move they feel like.It would not be as powerful as mega beedrill thanks to it lacking adaptibility, and lacking the same speed tier. It would however be able to withstand super effective physical hits unlike mega beedrill.
Look at it this wayI think thats fine, it has a solid niche...I dont think its trash by any
Any Pokémon can switch into an arena trap/shadow tag mon, that's not a Decidueye thing.
It's really not that bad. It's bulk is very good and matches its useful set of resistances. Yes it has bad weaknesses, but resisting Water, Electric, and Ground with Normal and Fighting immunities is solid. Mixed attacking stats are at least justified by having access to both Swords Dance and Nasty Plot.Leave it to GF to ruin the grass starter of this generation. It could have been so much better with 80/80/80 bulk and 108/56/124 attacking stats with the possibility of having access to hjk or jk by breeding with the hawlucha or dodrio family, but instead we get this poorly distributed piece of garbage. As is I'd say it'll sit in ru with venusaur.
Why should it be that way?Leave it to GF to ruin the grass starter of this generation. It could have been so much better with 80/80/80 bulk and 108/56/124 attacking stats with the possibility of having access to hjk or jk by breeding with the hawlucha or dodrio family, but instead we get this poorly distributed piece of garbage. As is I'd say it'll sit in ru with venusaur.
Primarina...the best design-wise...Glad to have been a Popplio supporter since the beginning. It payed off! Personally, it's the best out of the three both design-wise, stat-wise, and movepool-wise. Hyped as hell to use it.
Mega drill NEEDED that overdesigning, because even with +100 to its BST, it would still have really low stats all around, and it was so generic, no one even bothered using it IN GAME. Even butterfree at least had compound eyes sleep powder, and then was gifted with quiver dance. So if anyone was ever going to use it, they had to make those stats count. Decidueye, meanwile, is just fine, since its stats give it a bit of flexibility in its role, and also help to make a bit less predictable than many other pokemon. Spirit shackle in particular lets it lock stuff down to deal with certain threats, and it has just enough coverage that it can do that, with Ghost/Grass/Flying, and possibly fighting.It would not be as powerful as mega beedrill thanks to it lacking adaptibility, and lacking the same speed tier. It would however be able to withstand super effective physical hits unlike mega beedrill.
Nah, Spirt Shackle and its well-rounded stats would make it too good for RU. It'll be BL2 or UU instead.Leave it to GF to ruin the grass starter of this generation. It could have been so much better with 80/80/80 bulk and 108/56/124 attacking stats with the possibility of having access to hjk or jk by breeding with the hawlucha or dodrio family, but instead we get this poorly distributed piece of garbage. As is I'd say it'll sit in ru with venusaur.