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http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-uu-129883 dodmen's week 5 game with teal was interesting for me to watch, especially considering I have used a variant of dodmen's team probably at least x5 more than himself on the ladder with Tangrowth > Chesnaught.
Frankly I thought he should have led with Sableye and not Salamence and seeing as Salamence is his best response to Chandelure I really do not understand why he would lead with it (he wants to keep it in vs precisely nothing bar Chandy). However if he wanted to scout for Ice Beam Empoleon it worked although I would have just assumed Ice Beam since I needed Salamence for a possible CM Chandelure anyways. It seems like he played pretty nicely up until turn 10 as he was able to Toxic Krook so it could not necessarily trap anything for free anymore. I'm not sure what I would have done with Mence up vs Krook, probably switch out too but Teal made the right decision anyways weakening Mence more with Pursuit. No doubt with the Spikes and Sableye dodmen has a playable position by turn 10 still although he might be a lot worse. I might have tried to get more Spikes instead of firing off Wood Hammer because if Empoleon is forced to Defog that helps Mence a lot. But as Teal Defogs later anyways at turn 17 it should be clear dodmen's Wood Hammer would have been better than my recommended Spikes. dodmen plays around for the next ten turns or so not wanting to kill Empoleon with Blissey because that means Chandelure gets a free sub and can do serious damage but the end result of that is Empoleon living and Chandelure coming in for free anyways on a nice double switch at turn 27. dodmen was not making any predictions which let teal in the next ten or so turns do enough doubles to wear Mence down with Stealth Rock that it was pretty much hopeless bar several Fire Blast misses against Fancy Chansey which never happened. Teal played well with Chandelure so props for that. I think if dodmen missed a chance, apart from the doubles obviously, it would have been when he didn't kill Empoleon, then possibly he could have Defogged later to get rid of Stealth Rocks and have a moderately reliable Chandelure counter. I'm not sure where I'd recommend to kill Empoleon though so maybe that hope was just an illusion?
I think christo's stall game with Koko has already been thoroughly well analyzed so that's that. I will say christo's team looked quite nice for being able to put on every relevant hazard and still counter most of the metagame. Maybe there are some Mamo and Entei weakness but its very hard to counter them without Alomomola or Suicune.
Frankly I thought he should have led with Sableye and not Salamence and seeing as Salamence is his best response to Chandelure I really do not understand why he would lead with it (he wants to keep it in vs precisely nothing bar Chandy). However if he wanted to scout for Ice Beam Empoleon it worked although I would have just assumed Ice Beam since I needed Salamence for a possible CM Chandelure anyways. It seems like he played pretty nicely up until turn 10 as he was able to Toxic Krook so it could not necessarily trap anything for free anymore. I'm not sure what I would have done with Mence up vs Krook, probably switch out too but Teal made the right decision anyways weakening Mence more with Pursuit. No doubt with the Spikes and Sableye dodmen has a playable position by turn 10 still although he might be a lot worse. I might have tried to get more Spikes instead of firing off Wood Hammer because if Empoleon is forced to Defog that helps Mence a lot. But as Teal Defogs later anyways at turn 17 it should be clear dodmen's Wood Hammer would have been better than my recommended Spikes. dodmen plays around for the next ten turns or so not wanting to kill Empoleon with Blissey because that means Chandelure gets a free sub and can do serious damage but the end result of that is Empoleon living and Chandelure coming in for free anyways on a nice double switch at turn 27. dodmen was not making any predictions which let teal in the next ten or so turns do enough doubles to wear Mence down with Stealth Rock that it was pretty much hopeless bar several Fire Blast misses against Fancy Chansey which never happened. Teal played well with Chandelure so props for that. I think if dodmen missed a chance, apart from the doubles obviously, it would have been when he didn't kill Empoleon, then possibly he could have Defogged later to get rid of Stealth Rocks and have a moderately reliable Chandelure counter. I'm not sure where I'd recommend to kill Empoleon though so maybe that hope was just an illusion?
I think christo's stall game with Koko has already been thoroughly well analyzed so that's that. I will say christo's team looked quite nice for being able to put on every relevant hazard and still counter most of the metagame. Maybe there are some Mamo and Entei weakness but its very hard to counter them without Alomomola or Suicune.
