How would Wo-Chien be in a meta without other Legendaries? This isn't a case of it being weak, but because, again, the meta is centralized around the purposely strong.
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Wo-Chien has more problems than just being outclassed by other legendaries such as a 4x bug weakness and no reliable recovery which would still hold it back even if all other legendaries were banned
It never was Big Heatran.
It was Big Zapdos the entire time. He's seen it all. He took a little bit of a break in Gen 5 to take the suspision off of him, but then he came back, even with all this powercreep.
It was Big Zapdos the entire time. He's seen it all. He took a little bit of a break in Gen 5 to take the suspision off of him, but then he came back, even with all this powercreep.
Ubers doesn't ban mons for being overcentralizing, which leads to the tier centering around 1-3 mons every generation.
It got access to both toxic spikes and spikes. It is one of the few Pokemon to have both knock and toxic in the game currently. It can absorb status and knock off. Beats pretty much every other ground type bar Tusk in sheer utility especially Lando who now has none of those options.
Yea, as many people say, Pokèmon teambuilding is mostly about the team synergy, and compared to the NPCs, we would switch our mon if we are in a type disadvantage or a not favourable matchup, and being able to block the switches, is so big that is why we got Shadow Tag and Arena Trap usually banned. Hazards instead, even if still allow the switches, it can chip them, poison or even slow the enemies, and in a hyper-offensive meta this is it's incredibly powerful, even more that we got Pokémon as Hamurrot which can both attacking, so ignoring Taunt, and even setting Spikes, which since it's the effect of the move, can't be countered by Magic Bounce, and all of this with also Sharpness which allows to do great chip and maybe even finishing some Pokémon with Aqua Jet.
But at the same time isn't so easy to resolve; you wouldn't ban the entirety of the hazards, which are required to progress the game and also beat some teams as Stall (even if some teams run 6 HDB and this meta exist but anyway) as sounding incredibly dumb, but also banning some mons is complicated, as banning Ghold would probably make some mons return, with also the meta incredibly changing, and as you said, Corv will just be dominant with also its typing, while Ting-Lu even if can make progress with Ruination, most of the time is passive as most of the common sets include Spikes + Whirlwind to chip the damage and also remove possible boosts, and it's currently one of the few defensive mons that is in a good position in the offensive meta. Gliscor and Hamurott would be the only ones that make sense to test, as one is currently on the radar while the other got many voices of negativity on it.
Suspectingin the future them would be a great start to see if them removed could slightly help the meta to get healthy, even if in the current state it is now is probably impossible
I must say I'm really glad that Dragonite has weathered the storm where so many of the older pseudos have failed. (Haha Salamence how does being the worse Dragon/Flying pseudo for four gens taste)
Also I'm happy to see Blissey back in OU even if she will disappear the second BM Ursa goes bye bye. Though I wish they gave her back Toxic. Let the nurse do euthanasia Game Freak.
Also I'm happy to see Blissey back in OU even if she will disappear the second BM Ursa goes bye bye. Though I wish they gave her back Toxic. Let the nurse do euthanasia Game Freak.
People at gf were probably thinking that it would be fine in vgc and they didn’t think about all us singles players.
Never thought I would say it but actually I really miss Teleport. I'm of the opinion that half of the monsters of the generation would be infinetely more managable if only we had good fat pivots. Unfortunately Ferro is gone to get milk, Slowbro, Blissey and Clef are now sitting ducks, Torn, Lando and Corvi are much less viable and even the mighty Pex got its kneecaps broken
Edit: Only half, still wouldn't help much for the ones that only need one free turn to pretty much win the game
It's funny how Ursaluna was a worry before home and it now is solidly UU meanwhile people underestimated BM at first and now it's likely to be banned. It's almost poetic how the two forms are having mirrored trajectories.
Edit: Adding to the lack of bulky pivots if DeX leaks are to be believed we will not get Ferro back at all. Which may have had a pretty good effect on dealing with several of the biggest problems in tier
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Lando-I got nasty plot this gen why on earth would we consider it for OU
ehm well Power Creep? Please?
Challenge accepted, the Oxford definition of technicality would be "a point of law or a small detail of a set of rules, as contrasted with the intent or purpose of the rules". So Mega-Chomp being OU in Gen 6 and 7 because regular Chomp is OU would be a technicality, while a Pokemon becoming UU because it fell under the required usage, even if by very small margin, wouldn't be a technicality because it literally is the purpose of the rule (IMO)
remember the ban garganacl movement? Pepperidge farms remembers
as funny as this response is, please don't. it might not mean anything to you, but double/triple/etc posting is annoying to a lot of users and clutters up the thread, which is why it's against the basic posting rules. it's common courtesy on a lot of forums to not multipost and this is no exception
bro didnt get the memo that ferro is cancelled
i feel like some people weren't here for the gen 8 dlc tier shifts. just because a mon drops after a big release doesnt mean its now forever ass, kyurem literally spent multiple tier shifts in ru last gen lol
I literally said he is gone for milk (unless it's a joke about homophobic Ferro, in which case I promise you a laugh react )
So I may have missed it but did we ever get the Survey results for the follow-up survey after Bax was banned? I know it hasn't been posted in the Survey thread but I can't remember if it got posted here and if not then where are those results? I wanna see how badly BM scored on the survey.
Kingambit should be banned
I am genuinally done with the stupid +5 supreme overlord tera dark sucker punch kingambit with choice band
Choice Band Sucker Punch? Really?
I mean tbf Choice Band Kingambit does sound kind of gas.
Until you either face down a fighting type or the opponent uses encore
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