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I have just started a challenge with my friend who can get the most ripped in 100 days. I also had a fitness test, and I turned out to be in even worse shape than I thought I was. I did about 23 pushups, 22 situps, in a minute, I started off at a good pace, and then I hit a wall, and couldn't do any more. I got a physical done and I'm 6' and about 165 pounds. I have a resting heart rate of about 68. I'm surprised I did better in pushups because I did a lot of ab excersices during the summer. My long term goal is to get around 5% body fat and become a Olympic athlete, and I think I'm around 20% or so now. I'm also joined a bootcamp fitness class that meets a couple times a week, and I have access to the gym about 5 or 6 times a week. I'm technically enrolled in Cross Country to but I'm not sure If I should through with it.
 
and become a Olympic athlete
You can't just become an Olympic athlete. You have to be born with the right body haha...literally. Like, it really doesn't matter how much work you put in, you will not be able to beat Michael Phelps one-on-one in a swimming race, because his body is literally the most flawless design possible for swimming. Running is similar.
 

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yeah, Olympic is the buzz word there. At 20 I'd say you're a little too old to take up such an aspiration unless you're already deeply instilled in the discipline of your choosing but based on those fitness test results and the fact you didn't mention any such pastime I'll have to assume that isn't the case. Care to elaborate? And as Byrne alluded to, an Olympic athlete shouldn't be trying to 'get ripped' or get down to x% body fat; he should be trying to tailor-make his body into the perfect form for his chosen discipline.

putting that aside, if you're aiming for such an absurdly low body fat (which I wouldn't reccomend as there're associated health risks and it's very difficult to maintain) then you're going to need to take up a fairly intense cardio routine (and/or starve yourself) so it's probably best if you do go ahead with the XC.

I think you need to get a more concrete idea ofwhat your goals are. 'get ripped and become an Olympic athlete' isn't the best starting point tbh
 
olympic athlete as in a distance runner? (i'm guessing based on xc mention)
No, I want to be a be a 100, 200, 400m sprinter. I'm not in very good shape right now, so Cross country is a starting point to get me in shape, and then when Track starts in spring, I can focus on speed more.

You can't just become an Olympic athlete. You have to be born with the right body haha...literally. Like, it really doesn't matter how much work you put in, you will not be able to beat Michael Phelps one-on-one in a swimming race, because his body is literally the most flawless design possible for swimming. Running is similar
I disagree, anyone who is young can become get into the Olympics , but it will take a very intense regiment and around 10+ years of training. Some athletes will have a natural advantage over others, whether it be body-build, or genetics. I bet there are also some "average" athletes that still get medals, and they win because they are putting in mad work for 6-8 hours everyday, trying to the best, which is what I will do.

yeah, Olympic is the buzz word there. At 20 I'd say you're a little too old to take up such an aspiration unless you're already deeply instilled in the discipline of your choosing but based on those fitness test results and the fact you didn't mention any such pastime I'll have to assume that isn't the case. Care to elaborate? And as Byrne alluded to, an Olympic athlete shouldn't be trying to 'get ripped' or get down to x% body fat; he should be trying to tailor-make his body into the perfect form for his chosen discipline.

putting that aside, if you're aiming for such an absurdly low body fat (which I wouldn't reccomend as there're associated health risks and it's very difficult to maintain) then you're going to need to take up a fairly intense cardio routine (and/or starve yourself) so it's probably best if you do go ahead with the XC.

I think you need to get a more concrete idea ofwhat your goals are. 'get ripped and become an Olympic athlete' isn't the best starting point tbh
I can't do anything about my age, but many of the peak athletes are around their late 20s, and early 30s. My mission is to make the 2020 games, 2016 is way too soon. I will have about 8 years to go from to not very fit, to elite, which I think is reasonable. I know many of the people who make into the games have been doing their sport since they were around 5, but I can't turn back time and do things differently, so it doesn't really bother me. My goals are to make into the 2020 Olympic Games, and compete in the 100m and 200m events, its a longterm goal, and I'm setting many shortterm goals so I can get there, and keep getting better and better until I become one of the best. One of the reasons for why I want to get to a very low body fat % is because I want to get into the adult film buissness, and many of the actors my age have a 6-pack, and are very toned. I do want to maintain some muscle though, and not be a stick
 
not to be a party pooper but 100m 200m are literally the most natural ability sport of all imo

like i ran like a 11ish in the 100 m but i cannot ever run a sub 10 because i am 5'6

you have to realize that hard work does beat talent when talent doesnt work hard, but every single olympic athlete literally has to do the most efficient training for the maximum possible amount of time, and then they rest, then train, then rest. you can't really work harder than them, because they work to the maximum possible without overtraining. they literally train and rest every day.
 
No, I want to be a be a 100, 200, 400m sprinter. I'm not in very good shape right now, so Cross country is a starting point to get me in shape, and then when Track starts in spring, I can focus on speed more.



I disagree, anyone who is young can become get into the Olympics , but it will take a very intense regiment and around 10+ years of training. Some athletes will have a natural advantage over others, whether it be body-build, or genetics. I bet there are also some "average" athletes that still get medals, and they win because they are putting in mad work for 6-8 hours everyday, trying to the best, which is what I will do.



I can't do anything about my age, but many of the peak athletes are around their late 20s, and early 30s. My mission is to make the 2020 games, 2016 is way too soon. I will have about 8 years to go from to not very fit, to elite, which I think is reasonable. I know many of the people who make into the games have been doing their sport since they were around 5, but I can't turn back time and do things differently, so it doesn't really bother me. My goals are to make into the 2020 Olympic Games, and compete in the 100m and 200m events, its a longterm goal, and I'm setting many shortterm goals so I can get there, and keep getting better and better until I become one of the best. One of the reasons for why I want to get to a very low body fat % is because I want to get into the adult film buissness, and many of the actors my age have a 6-pack, and are very toned. I do want to maintain some muscle though, and not be a stick
You're just trolling. Thinking you can go from "not very good shape" to the Olympics? Thinking that anyone can make it to the Olympics? I really don't think you have the slightest clue what you're talking about or trying to achieve. You're setting yourself up for fucking enormous failure. You're also going about it HORRIBLY wrong. Are you even aware of the fact that cross country will focus on your slow-twitch muscle fibers and make you a slower sprinter? Are you even aware that you literally have a 0% chance of making the Olympics? You can not simply be an Olympic sprinter through sheer hard work. The amount of talent required is tremendous.

And now you're talking about being in the adult film business?

This thread is for serious people that take fitness seriously. Please leave.
 
"hey guys I want to go from a borderline obese 20% body fat to a nearly unattainable without drugs 5% body fat and also be an olympic athlete and pornstar wat do?"
 

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I was about to come in here and start moderating the flaming a bit, until I read the part where the guy said he wanted to be a pron star instead and I thought better of it.

You know STEELDRAGON it's good to have big dreams and all, and I like the confidence you have that you can be an olympic athlete. Despite the slim chances, it IS possible. However, the type of training and advice you will need to make that happen in 8 years (which is a small time window) is far beyond what you're likely to find on this board. None of us are even close to being olympic athletes, and to achieve what you're trying to achieve you will not only need that kind of professional advice, but you will need a professional trainer working with you every day. Even for those who are talented and start at a young age, it's virtually impossible to solo train your way to Olympic caliber.

If you want to do porn, do gay porn. I saw a documentary once that showed how male and female "adult" film actors made 10-20x more money doing gay scenes than straight scenes. Some of the actors weren't even gay, they were just doing it for the money.

Either way let's tone down the flaming a bit. Trolling or not, it's unnecessary to insult the guy and yell at him to leave.
 

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Yeah, I've worked through the pain before, but this felt like I needed one more day of rest, I feel much better today so I'ma get at it yo. Plus after not working out for awhile I didn't want to pull something and be out for a week or w/e this early, that'd suck.
 

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ugh I was almost starting to get on your side in a sorta 'let the kid try, what's the worst that could happen' kinda way and then you came out with the pornstar bit :evan:
 
in a nutshell how to add mass to arms? im talking specifically exercises that help to build arm and shoulder mass, ive been told "do squats and eat loads" but im really looking for some more specicfic advice.

ive also noticed i get pain down certain area of my forearms when barbell curling, i get pain when e-z bar curling but noticeably less, any way to get around this?
 
I don't barbell curl ever because I get pain mainly in my wrist but also a bit in my forearm. EZ bar is a good substitute but if you have chronic pain from bicep exercises then you'll have to take a break from them. I would stick with weighted chinups for biceps until the pain goes away if that's the case.

To add real mass to your arms, you have to target your arms, plain and simple. However, a common mistake is adding a disproportionate amount of arm work too early. If you're doing a split then you can have a day solely for arms. You just have to keep it balanced. You're never going to have big, strong arms with an disproportional torso/legs.

Think of it like a tree. You find me one tree with huge branches and a small trunk and I'll shut up, but until then you have to get stronger on the main compound lifts before your arms will follow. That's why you usually hear "do squats and eat loads"
 

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I don't barbell curl ever because I get pain mainly in my wrist but also a bit in my forearm. EZ bar is a good substitute but if you have chronic pain from bicep exercises then you'll have to take a break from them. I would stick with weighted chinups for biceps until the pain goes away if that's the case.

To add real mass to your arms, you have to target your arms, plain and simple. However, a common mistake is adding a disproportionate amount of arm work too early. If you're doing a split then you can have a day solely for arms. You just have to keep it balanced. You're never going to have big, strong arms with an disproportional torso/legs.

Think of it like a tree. You find me one tree with huge branches and a small trunk and I'll shut up, but until then you have to get stronger on the main compound lifts before your arms will follow. That's why you usually hear "do squats and eat loads"
@ Razza - basically this. Poppy commented that he thinks my biceps were the most impressive part of my body, yet I barely work them out. Sure I do about 6 sets of dumbbell curls per week but keep in mind that's compared to about 12-15 sets on my back and legs (mostly compound). I used to do curls and a lot of isolation exercises but neglect compounds and my arms are actually much bigger by doing less of them! If you want some specific isolation exercises, dumbbell curls, dumbbell hammer curls and preacher curls are fantastic. Don't forget your compounds though :).
 

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Squats, deadlifts, clean and jerk, overhead press, upright rows, trap bar carries, bench press...real lifts y'know? Not pissing around in front of the mirror with concentrated curls or other self-indulgent shit
 

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in a nutshell how to add mass to arms? im talking specifically exercises that help to build arm and shoulder mass, ive been told "do squats and eat loads" but im really looking for some more specicfic advice.

ive also noticed i get pain down certain area of my forearms when barbell curling, i get pain when e-z bar curling but noticeably less, any way to get around this?
If you can't do barbell then heavy dumbbells is a good alternative. Doing heavy dumbbell hammer curls are really good, even better at lower repetitions with heavy weight. I was blessed with nice shoulders, but something that has helped me get them really strong and broader is overhead press, and really heavy too. I got benefit from this while I was doing Ripptoe's 5x5.

Most dumbbell workouts are good if you want to build arm mass, as they were designed to mostly target one body muscle part at the time. Just keep in mind, Triceps are about 2/3 of the arm, so don't just neglect the Tricep. Best workouts for Triceps is Skullcrushers, and my favorite, close grip bench barbell. Remember:

Bigger muscles: more reps, less sets
More strength: less reps, more sets
 
while I was intoxicated the other night I squatted down to an almost-sitting position i.e. ATG

up until then I had been struggling with flexibility issues. I am now starting back down at one plate and going well-below parallel for the first time in my life.


moral of the story: get drunk if you want to break barriers and plateaus
 
How is everyone's sleep schedule here?

I feel like it won't be a productive week for me in bodybuilding unless my sleep was perfect.
Just saying because I barely had 3 hours this time, so I'm gonna skip the workout to avoid having a terrible one
 

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Sleep is super-important and all but I don't think it's a good precedent to so casually skip a session because you missed out on a few hours. I've trained through illness, hangovers, depression, blizzards, thunderstorms...you name it. Getting the job done should take priority because a terrible session is almost always better than no session at all. It sounds to me like you're attempting to justify slacking off !_!
 
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