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Latias (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Dragon Pulse
- Recover
- Roar



Gastrodon (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Storm Drain
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Earth Power
- Ice Beam
- Toxic
- Recover



Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Spikes
- Brave Bird
- Taunt
- Roost



Mienshao (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Regenerator
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Hi Jump Kick
- Stone Edge
- Substitute
- Baton Pass



Salamence (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 80 Atk / 252 SAtk / 176 Spd
Rash Nature (+SAtk, -SDef)
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast
- Brick Break
- Roost



Tyranitar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Stealth Rock
- Crunch
- Pursuit
- Superpower
 

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Ok, Scizor wants Superpower over Brick Break as it hits Magnezone and Heatran a lot harder while Brick Break just isnt strong enough. I also suggest a bulky spread of 248HP/252Atk/8Spd, CB Scizor isnt meant to be speedy, thats what the SDer wants to be, the HP Evs give it a lot of bulk and with its useful resistances due to its steel typing, this will help your team out.

For Infernape, I suggest Fire Blast over Flamethrower as the extra power is welcomed. You may want to consider making Suicune a Offensive Calm Mind sweeper as that will make it a lot more deadly and Gyarados will often come into Suicune only to be destroyed by HP Electric while at the moment when you swich in Porygon2, they just switch out. As for the moveset, this is it:

Suicune@Life Orb
Timid/Modest nature
Pressure
Evs-4HP/252Spd/252SAtk
-Calm Mind
-HP Electric
-Ice Beam
-Surf
Might not have recovery but a very good sweeper for an offensive team like this. Timid or Modest depends on whether you want to be faster or stronger.

I feel with an offensive team Bronzong is not the best lead, maybe consider Metagross or Azelf, these are the sets:

Metagross@Occa Berry
Adamant nature
Clear Body
Evs-252HP/236Atk/12Def/8Spd
-Stealth Rock
-Bullet Punch
-Earthquake
-Explosion/Meteor Mash
One of the best leads, gets off SR pretty much every time. Earthquake, Occa Berry and Bullet Punch takes care of Infernape leads and Heatran leads that dont run Shuca Berry but sadly most do. The last slot is up to you, Explosion means it can go out with a bang and it OHKOs Swampert and has a possibility of OHKOing Hippowdon. Meteor Mash can be used though as it means you can beat Azelf leads as Bullet Punch is only a 3HKO.

You could use a Double Screen Azelf lead to help your sweepers set up:

Azelf@Light Clay
Jolly nature
Levitate
Evs-252HP/4Atk/252Spd
-Stealth Rock
-Reflect
-Light Screen
-Explosion/Taunt
Stealth Rock is vital for offensive teams, dual screens to help your sweepers set up. Explosion or Taunt depends on whether you want to go out with a bang or stop slower leads from setting up and due to screens Hippowdon and Swampert would be set-up bait.

You do have quite a large Lucario weakness as once Scizor takes something out with Bullet Punch or Pursuit, if Salamence is down or weakened its pretty much gg. I suggest replacing Porygon2 with Choice Scarf Rotom-H as it also deals with Gyarados, finishes off weakened Salamences but most importantly makes Lucario cry, this is the set:

Rotom-H@Choice Scarf
Timid nature
Levitate
Evs-4HP/252Spd/252SAtk
-Trick
-Shadow Ball
-Overheat
-Thunderbolt
Thunderbolt deals with Gyarados and finishes off weakened Salamences, Overheat destroys Lucario and Scizor, Shadow Ball hits ghosts and Latias while Trick cripples walls, this can also help Salamence set-up as it will often be nabbed by something like Tyranitar with a choice locked Pursuit which Salamence easily sets up a DD on.

EDIT:You say Heatrans a problem so you could use Rotom-W as Hydro Pump will decimate it and you can still finish off weakened Lucarios with Thunderbolt.

Hope this helps and Good Luck with the team :)
 
Thanks. I think the Meta-lead looks pretty nice. I'll test it out. I really don't need HP Electric to deal with Gyarados', as PG2 handles them very well, so I'd rather leave Suicune and PG2 where they are. I also think Nape and Mence handle Luke very nicely, surely no counter, but a check is well enough off. I'll test Rotom-H though, and see how it goes.

Also implementing Scizor spread.
 

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You could use Rotom-W like I stated in place of Porygon2 as it does everything it does but also deals with Heatran, Lucario, Tyranitar and Latias.
 
Tyranitar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 40 Atk / 216 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Stealth Rock
- Crunch
- Pursuit
- Superpower

Snorlax (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 40 HP / 252 Atk / 216 SDef
Hardy Nature
- Return
- Fire Punch
- Earthquake
- Pursuit

Roserade (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SDef / 4 Spd
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Leaf Storm
- Sleep Powder
- Toxic Spikes
- Rest

Gliscor (M) @ Toxic Orb
Trait: Poison Heal
EVs: 252 HP / 184 Def / 72 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Ice Fang
- Taunt
- Swords Dance

Excadrill (M) @ Air Balloon
Trait: Sand Rush
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Rapid Spin

Thundurus (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Prankster
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Nasty Plot
- Thunderbolt
- Focus Blast
- Hidden Power [Ice]


Threat List

Aerodactyl -

Blissey -

Breloom -

Bronzong -

Celebi -

Chansey -

Conkeldurr -

Darmanitan -

Deoxys-D -

Deoxys-S -

Dragonite -

Empoleon -

Espeon -

Excadrill -

Ferrothorn -

Forretress -

Gastrodon -

Gengar -

Gliscor -

Gyarados -

Haxorus -

Heatran -

Hippowdon -

Hydreigon -

Infernape -

Jellicent -

Jirachi -

Kingdra -

Kyurem -

Landorus -

Latias -

Latios -

Lucario -

Magnezone -

Mamoswine -

Metagross -

Mienshao -

Ninetales -

Politoed -

Porygon2 -

Quagsire -

Reuniclus -

Rotom-W -

Salamence -

Sawsbuck -

Scizor -

Scrafty -

Shaymin -

Sigilyph -

Skarmory -

Snorlax -

Starmie -

Suicune -

Tentacruel -

Terrakion -

Thundurus -

Tornadus -

Tyranitar -

Vaporeon -

Venusaur -

Victini -

Virizion -

Volcarona -

Zoroark -
 
Scizor definitely wants superpower. Brick break is 75 bp and superpower is 120; after one attack drop, superpower goes down to 66% of its original power, or 80, which is still stronger than brick break.

I also agree that a bronzong is not the best for an offensive team. Light Screen is nice, but eventually it'll wear off and bronzong will die. Since it can't really dish out much damage (save from gyro ball and even then it's not a whole lot), it's pretty much a wasted pokemon slot. I'd say the meta lead would help a lot, to set up rocks and make sure you get the opponent's lead out of there while hopefully being able to deal some damage or explode on the next guy that they switch out.
 
Well off the bat, I see a Zapdos and an Infernape being a bitch to switch into. Your team also lacks speed in general. To simply help this issue, I think we could possible swap Suicune in for Latias. It handles those 2 perfectly fine, can still help with Gyarados who most likely shouldn't be able to KO it, and the extra fighting resist can help out.

Latias would also happen to run CM and still be able to sweep as if Suicune would. The extra Ice and Dragon weakness should still be able to be kept in check thanks to P2, Scizor and Bronzong.
 
Metagross is now definitely replacing Bronzong as lead. It always sets up rocks and usually gets a Poke or 2 with it. I love it. I've been running an offensive Latias set, which has worked well, but should I be running Defensive? So far the team is doing well(er).

SuperPower on Scizor has also helped a lot. Thanks for showing the 80 bp afterwards, SoulRed12.
 

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