Not even counting Psychic Terrain, Sucker Punch harms Bisharp. It misses out on KO-ing Landorus-T too much.
i'd put hawlucha as a solid B-, certainly one of the better niche picksI'm really surprised Hawlucha is untiered. With Unburden + Seed, it's an excellent tailwind user on HO, along with great dual stab and access to some good support moves like Encore and Taunt. Obviously not the end all be all of the metagame, but I feel it at least deserves a tiering around C+ or B-.
I second this. Using psychic spam, I broke my previous showdown ladder score, which was way back in 2016.also i'd push mega metagross to A+, it's currently the third most popular mega on ladder atm. (charizard-y #1, kang #2)
megagross is seeing conditions it didn't see in 2015, notably the inclusion of lele protecting it from priority, the reduction of sucker punch's BP and parental bond's nerf, and really strong coverage options that let it beat would be counters like stomping tantrum for heatran who previously walled it with impunity and ice punch which is now perfectly viable as most landorus are not choice scarf. not to mention the speed mechanic change for mega evolutions
psychic spam (ie meta + lele) is a terrifying lead to stare down that has immediate massive offensive presence and there aren't really any hard counters to it, and honestly i think metagross is going places this meta.
I third this. It's a very deadly combo when played right.I second this. Using psychic spam, I broke my previous showdown ladder score, which was way back in 2016.
Scrafty B -> B+Rankings update
Kartana: B -> B+
Entei: B -> B-
Blacephalon: B -> B-
Politoed: B -> B+
Terrakion: B -> C+
Porygon2: B -> B-
Hawlucha: UR -> B-
Abomasnow: UR -> B-
Mega Metagross: A -> A+
I can agree with all of the above. As Hawlucha proves itself, I could see it making it to B+ Beyond that every other move is definitely justified.
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I'd like to get some more discussion on these mons:
Are they fine where they are? Should they be moved up or down? These mons had zero or one posts about them since the last update and I'd like to get some more opinions.
Scrafty: BI'd like to get some more discussion on these mons:
Are they fine where they are? Should they be moved up or down? These mons had zero or one posts about them since the last update and I'd like to get some more opinions.
in the long term a team like that is never going to win vs timer, especially if you know just to attack around the chanseyMay I nominate Chansey for Eevee-Rank? There was a QR team that was going around where Carbink used guard split on Chansey while in Trick Room and had partners to skill swap it abilities to survive things like toxic and perish song, and it was a major pain. Without proper checks, it could run down teams but if the team did have ways to stop it (like follow me to redirect guard split), then Chansey would have a hard time winning.
I feel like Chansey would be a potentially relevant threat to look out for due to the difficulty for beating it, so I think it should be considered for a ranking.
Toxic sets lose to Fini, steel, and/or poison types. Minimize, Soft-boiled, Snatch, and Seismic Toss is better if only because it only auto-loses to ghosts. Also, Chansey? I've only seen Blissey for this kind of gimmickit's not the new player turn timer i'm referring to, it's simply the fact that the player playing against chansey can fairly easily KO the 3 pokemon brought with chansey and continually rotate them around to avoid scaling toxic damage, which will invariably run the timer and cause chansey to lose in any situation where it hasn't stalled out and passively KOd 3 mons
Agreed? Sorry?I think there's no need to argue over small details like this. It's a gimmick, and it shouldn't be ranked, at least not on eevee tier.
This is exactly what the Chansey player wants to happen though (barring a few exceptions). This reduces the amount of time the Chansey player needs to pick a move because there is only one Pokemon to select a move from, thus conserving his/her time and reducing yours by more. This is further backed by Chansey's teammates having better sacrificial options than almost any team. Chansey is very well capable of 1v4ing teams (that's the entire purpose of the whole guard split strat anyways), and PP stall those it cannot hit (any Ghost type) because Defense Curl has a ridiculous amount of PP.it's not the new player turn timer i'm referring to, it's simply the fact that the player playing against chansey can fairly easily KO the 3 pokemon brought with chansey and continually rotate them around to avoid scaling toxic damage, which will invariably run the timer and cause chansey to lose in any situation where it hasn't stalled out and passively KOd 3 mons
I mean, braviary exists, although it has a slightly different job. I'd rather run braviary for a variety of reasons, those being:They play different roles. Bisharp is a physical attacker that discourages intimidate, while Hydreigon is a Sp.Atk er that can set up tailwind. Bisharp also has better neutral coverage between STAB, with only Incineroar, Houndoom, Sharpedo, Gyarados-Mega, and Greninja, and opposing Bisharp resist, while Hydreigon gets hard walled by fairies. As someone who has been using it, I think B and B- rank is fine; it does it job well, but it’s tools have been nerfed, and its old enemies returning. But the niche of being the only with Pokémon with Defiant is good. Synral, next time edit your post than triple posting.