physical or mixedI've been using a Special Groudon. It is Modest with Eruption, Earth Power, Fire Blast, and Protect. It's EVs outspeed Smeargle and can survive a 252 SpA Groudon's Earth Power. People have been talking about how Special Groudon can't touch Kyogre. Is there a better option?
If you're going mixed, go either precipice blades + earth power + flamethrower/overheat/fire blast, or precipice blades + eruption + flamethrower. Another option is precipice blades + rock move (rock slide, stone edge, rock tomb, etc) + overheat. (this one needs more physical investment which is why you choose overheat instead)What part should be mixed? Should Earth Power become Precipice Blades? I'd have to check my Groudon's Attack IVs.
Yeah, it's probably my unrestricted nucleus that needs work.Thing is that while Kyogre may take quite a bit of supp to function properly, the investment always worth it as it gives so much back in return. When properly supported, it becomes one of the best shields against Groudon in the game (not necessarily for itself, but between itself and the rest of the team thanks to Primordial Sea), which no other Pokemon can really claim with the same amount of support. In the event that an Groudon receives a similar amount of support, the matchup advantage usually goes to Kyogre as Groudon desperately needs the sunlight to not get destroyed and cannot OHKO Kyogre.
Kyogre's extremely high base Special Attack and the ability to downright blow up so many things in the game often means it doesn't require much, if any, Special Attack investment to be successful. Physical defensive investment is ideal in a lot of cases so Kyogre can take multiple Pblades if it has to, ensuring maximum Primordial Sea uptime. Kyogre can even take a combined LO Adamant Talon BB and Max Atk+ Groudon PBlades and survive, while eliminating both with Origin Pulse.
Kyogre has seen successful pairings with Groudon (obviously), Xerneas (won St Louis regionals), Yveltal (won NJ MSS which was kindof stacked), Dialga (Wolfe), Kyurem-W (St Louis t4), and if you count the earlier season, Ho-Oh. As for Giratina-O, a japanese player made it to 1900 last season on the special ladder with Kyogre + Giratina-O. You don't have to pair it with Rayquaza to be successful.
Jake is in the Junior division. Are you in the same?#209 worldwide, #45 U.S., 1699 ranking.
I'm positive I could've gone higher, but it was a really busy weekend and I was starting to play inconsistently. I stopped at 20-5, when I knew I was right around 1700 so I wouldn't have to deal with the possibility of hitting a losing streak and climbing back up.
Highlight was a match against Patrick (SalaMenace on NB), who took #5 overall with a really cool team.
Above, Jake0743, are your numbers above right? There's no way those rankings are accurate.
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Noooope! Everything makes sense now. I should read signatures before posting.Jake is in the Junior division. Are you in the same?
I never read signatures either. I was trying to find a way to relay the info without it sounding like I was trying to make it an issue.Noooope! Everything makes sense now. I should read signatures before posting.