Continuing from the other thread:
Bird said:
I'm puzzled on your 'more pokémon-style-sprite' argument. Enlighten me, why would it fit in better? Any comparisations at hand to back your argument up?
http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1512008&postcount=159
If I could add some more comparison sprites that would help to exemplify what I was talking about there, look at these:
The stark contrasts, the solid, saturated colors, the lack of major anti-aliasing and dithering...
It's the combination of a great many subtle elements.
My point was; it's the only sprite that actually resembles a rock.
Why? As mentioned, the dithering and the highlights. You could argue DarthVader's sprite has a 'smooth' stone for a head, but smooth stones are not pointy. Go and ask wikipedia about the process.
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Not only is it missing the point to try to relate realism and pokemon, but it goes against precedent:
None of these use dithering or anti-aliasing to a major degree. They achieve their rocky appearances and textures through solid shapes and colors. They are more implied than excplict. The areas of color and shade are clearly separate.
Highlights (you're referring to lighting...?) are also achieved through the effective use and contrast of solid color shapes. Darth's sprite also does this.
As for looking like a rock... not only do I find that a point not entirely relevant (Jynx looking like an Ice/Psychic?), but the spriter's job was not to make their sprite look like a rock, but to follow the concept art closely and faithfully. Darth's arguably looks extremely close to the concept art, so if you have a problem with it, take it up with the original artist. (In fact, that was already a previous concern during the concept art polls. Obviously, it wasn't that big of a deal.)
The highlights speak for theirselves, as paintings deal with similar elements and you claim to know your shit on those. Although that was moreso directed at Atryoki's sprite than Darthvader's.
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I don't understand your point. Just because a painting deals with certain elements, that doesn't mean a sprite does. Is that what you're talking about? :/
Actually I could say that the saturation of the colours in darthvader's sprite is lower than normally used within the official sprites (or duller if you prefer).
Really? I don't see that... I'm looking through various sprites (Rampardos, Dusknoir, etc.) and I can't see it.
Of course, it's not like I've opened them in a graphics editor, so I don't know any of their actual values or anything.
(BTW, when I say saturated, I don't mean duller. Are you confusing the two...? I mean like "rich" or "thick", or "undiluted".)
And yes, I know that neither sprite is a perfect Nintendo sprite, but that doesn't mean that we can't make an attempt to discern how closely each sprite relates to official sprites based on the numerous examples and precedents already set by the games.
Of course, we can never be completely objective, but that's why we can discuss the elements of the sprites and artworks.
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