It's surprisingly easy to mooch master balls off the various trading boards. Lots of generous folks around, lol. But yeah, I get what you mean, it feels awesome having some 27/27/27 or something beast in your dusk ball.Well yeah, but you'd be surprised; not everyone wants to, or can clone lots of Master Balls.
Yeah, I'll admit it's easier than ever. I'm going to keep all the PP information and assorted Dusk Ball stuff in the guide, not that anyone will mind I bet. In fact, you just mentioned the main reason I'm only going to use my Master Ball on Mr. Big Bad when the Azure Flute event is out. It feels better to have a great legend pop out of a Dusk Ball when all the others are Master Ball'd.It's surprisingly easy to mooch master balls off the various trading boards. Lots of generous folks around, lol. But yeah, I get what you mean, it feels awesome having some 27/27/27 or something beast in your dusk ball.
Ahh I see. We'd get along well I bet ;) If I didn't want to get the best legends out there, I probably wouldn't have written this guide in the first place! Anyway, once I get some confirmation on the Catching Formula (probably from X-Act; he's the one who posted it), I'll be sure to edit it into the guide.I'm an Overly Compulsive SRer, I can't help being interested, lol.
Just taking a look at that, I'd say it's a better bet to include X-Act's simplified version in the guide. I got a PM back from him, and apparantly the / 256 is not actually used in the game; the game would generate a random number between 1 and 256.Uh, yeah, you just posted the simplified one. >_> It might be exact for full HP though.
Here's the one from Bulbapedia for comparison.
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Catch_rate
Palkia is very easy to catch (Dialga for me anyway). Just don't expect the rest of the legendaries to be that easy (bar Shaymin perhaps, but it's not legally obtainable yet anyway). One thing is that I'm not 100% sure Cresselia and Mesprit actually have a Catch Rate of 3. I think it may in fact be closer to Dialga and Palkia's. Unless it was just me, I found that they were caught unusually quickly by Dusk Balls. Both of them. I may have just been lucky I suppose. If anybody else was crazy enough to use Dusk Balls on the runners, please post here and state your experiences with them.mm, I just caught palkia. I tried to get good EV's, and their pretty good, but not competitive enough I think. anyways, Palkia is very easy to catch. I never used more than 5 balls, or is it just me?
Anyways, great guide. I'm going to use it to catch those hard-to-catch legendaries with a catch rate of 3.
You're using my formula incorrectly. I fixed your numbers. :) Since the above number is greater than 1, the Pokemon will be caught for sure. Bolded text is what I changed. I don't know why you put the x10 honestly.Percent Chance to Capture = (( 1 + ( MaxHP * 3 - CurHP * 2 ) * CatchRate * BallRate * Status ) / ( MaxHP * 3 )) / 256
Ball Rates :
Dusk Ball = 4
Net Ball = 3
Ultra Ball = 2
Timer ball begins at 1 and increases every 10 turns, with a cap of 4. Quick Balls begin at 4, and decrease every 5 turns with a low of 1. Neither of these Balls exceed the rate of the Dusk Ball, and are somewhat more circumstantial.
Status :
Freeze : 10
Sleep : 10
Paralysis : 5
Burn : 5
Poison : 5
None : 1
Freeze and Sleep are tied for first, but there are no reliable Freezing moves at this point in time. So, Sleep is our best bet, and significantly higher than Paralysis. Paralysis is, as mentioned, much lower, and not worth it. A legendary should never be Burned or Poisoned, as they both essentially start a death clock with steady HP lowering.
The catch rates of the legendaries are 3, except for Manaphy, who is obtained in an Egg, Dialga and Palkia, who are 30, and Shaymin, which is 45.
Let's say we try and catch a Level 5 Max HP Magikarp with a Dusk Ball. Magikarp’s Catch Rate is 255.
((1 + ((18*3 - 18*2) * 255 * 4 * 1)) / (18*3)) / 256
= ((1 + (18 * 255 * 4 * 1)) / 54) / 256
= ((1 + 18360) / 54) / 256
= (18361 / 54) / 256
= 340 / 256
= 1.328125
Any decimal numbers were not shown, and simply rounded down.
The x 10 was supposed to be x 100, me making a rather large error there indeed. I thought the formula could be translated into % to capture, ie. 0.7 x 100 = 70%, over 1 = over 100%. I guess I left out the second zero XD Other than that, anything was just me being bad at maths. As you can probably tell from some of my numerical posts, and even the PMs I sent, I struggle with numbers, and screw up a lot.Very good guide... I'm using it to catch my Azelf. :)
You're using my formula incorrectly. I fixed your numbers. :) Since the above number is greater than 1, the Pokemon will be caught for sure. Bolded text is what I changed. I don't know why you put the x10 honestly.
I can back this up. I saw Mesprit while surfing on a pond south of Hearthome City.Are you sure that Mesprit can't appear in lakes? I swear I once encountered it while surfing on a very small lake in one of the routes.
The thing I was pointing out was, I was trying to catch a Magikarp-transformed Ditto with a Quick Ball on turn two, and it escaped. =/You're using my formula incorrectly. I fixed your numbers. :) Since the above number is greater than 1, the Pokemon will be caught for sure. Bolded text is what I changed. I don't know why you put the x10 honestly.