so the only way zuzurukin is koing doryuuzu is by using hjk, and that screams gengar switch(fuck shandera). Shibirudon with flamethrower and flygon using stab eq are our only hope...
Oh, I was using an adamant nature and 252HP/252Atk. Regardless, if you run that spread and nature you only hit 114 HP Doryuuzu for 50% - 58.7% with HJK, so it still beats you.Really? I got 70.4% - 82.9% against Impish 252HP/252Def Zuruzukin with a +1 LO STAB EQ.
Ohh this is like the revamped and improved Rampardos!
Is there really a point though to rapid spin once you have a +4 Doryzuu that they clearly have no good checks for?Once thier ghost is gone, you can rapid spin without fear.
With mold breaker you don't get a speed boost and its REALLY slow.Doryuuzu also has Mold Breaker from Dream world, so all those Bronzongs and Rotom are utterly destroyed with ease.
This is Pokemon Black and White.
Would this set solve the Speed issue, then?With mold breaker you don't get a speed boost and its REALLY slow.
Sand Throw solved the speed issue....Would this set solve the Speed issue, then?
-Earthquake
-Rock Slide
-X-Scissor/Rapid Spin/Brick Break/Shadow Claw
-X-Scissor/Rapid Spin/Brick Break/Shadow Claw
Item: Choice Scarf
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Ability: Mold Breaker
True, this set doesn't have a lot of power compared to the other sets, but at least it can revenge kill.
I know that, but what if Doryuuzu needs Mold Breaker to deal with Levitators?Sand Throw solved the speed issue....
Yeah, that seems logical. One of Doryuzu's set's could be revenge killer, and another set might make use of Sand Throw.I know that, but what if Doryuuzu needs Mold Breaker to deal with Levitators?
- Base 88 Speed that doubles in a sandstorm
That's a big number. With no investment and a neutral nature, it hits 212 Speed, 414 after the Sand Throw boost.
nah I don't think so. scarfgon only reaches 492 speed versus 548 (I think) for sand throw doryuuzu. if flygon switches in on SD its screwed because +2 return or even x-scissor OHKOs.flygon I realize is the best check to doryuuzu, if it revenge kills or switches in on sd or eq. remember that doryuuzu sd is really obvious. It's almost as obvious as dd kingdra dance in rain.
Ya I doubt it, Rotom Wash is a fantastic pokemon, one I will be using first and foremost.Can this thing get past Rotom-W?
Well, Rotom-W is immune to Earthquake, so Doryuuzu would have to use Return or X-Scizzor. Rotom-W can Will-O-Wisp him, and has a STAB Super Effective Hydro Pump, so I could see him as a good check.Can this thing get past Rotom-W?
That's why I'm going to use a ScarfDoryuuzu with Mold Breaker, just like PD suggested. They'll expect me to have Sand Throw, and I'll surprise them with a STAB EQ. I hope that message "____ has Mold Breaker!" is gone this gen. xDWell, Rotom-W is immune to Earthquake, so Doryuuzu would have to use Return or X-Scizzor. Rotom-W can Will-O-Wisp him, and has a STAB Super Effective Hydro Pump, so I could see him as a good check.