WHAT THE NEW LAW MEANS
* Establishes a 'three strikes' regime to stamp out illegal file-sharing.
* Copyright owners notify Internet Service Providers (ISPs) that someone is downloading material, such as films or video, without paying for it, through file-sharing.
* ISPs send warning notices to those customers telling them they may have infringed copyright.
* After three warnings, if the user does not stop, the copyright owner can take a claim to the Copyright Tribunal.
* The tribunal now has the power in impose a maximum $15,000 penalty on the internet account holder.
* However, after two years, if the new regime is not working - and a large number of people are still illegally downloading, then the Commerce Minister can introduce a tougher regime which could lead to the suspension of accounts.
* This would see the tribunal refer serious cases to the district court, who would have the power to order a six month suspension.
* The regime comes into force on September 1 2011. The law does not apply to cellphone networks until 2013.
As a DJ, this will absolutely ruin us. As a regular internet user and music lover, this will be annoying as fuck. Please stay out of our country, crappy laws!Lets hope this doesnt enter Australia whatsoever. But really, is this the future of the internet?
Will in a few years all ISPs in developed countries be monitoring their users in case of piracy?
Or is it just an attempt for governments to try and control a new phenomenom, and if governments are able to get away with it, will all sorts of government policies start to be implied upon internet, such as taxing goods, such as the stuff you get from ebay.
Or will the attempt finally crumble, because for a good reason, its probably not making the voters any happier, which will make the move by NZ bad politically. And if this is the case, would it be a deterrent from other governments from doing the same thing, in fear of being voted out for such a bad policy
Yes I understand your point, and it technically is better for the law to be upheld. But if this passes, it gives more leeway for internet censorship to rise, because being threatening to security is also against the law.boo hoo it's going to be harder (or rather, more penalized) to break the law by pirating music.
seriously how is this a bad thing other than because you want to steal music, it has no other effect other than to punish people who are doing something illegal. All it is doing is upping the amount of enforcability that is going to happen, which is a good thing, seeing as how currently it's a law that the public by and large completely fucking ignores.
There is no way this is true.it has no other effect other than to punish people who are doing something illegal.
You realize this law has literally nothing to do with censorship, right? It is in no way a gateway to censoring the internet, it is simply allowing for harsher punishments and more accountability of people doing something illegal.But if this passes, it gives more leeway for internet censorship to rise, because being threatening to security is also against the law.
The patriot act allowed you to be detained / questioned on suspicions of terrorist behavior.Are you Aemerican? Did you think the PATRIOT ACT was okay because it only punished terrorists?
Yes, but how is this being done? Its being done by having ISPs policing the networks. It definitely isnt censorship, but its definitely a step towards one. Because this is another attempt to try and control the internet, gradually enough control will be granted to the government, to the point that they are able to pass an internet censorship bill.You realize this law has literally nothing to do with censorship, right? It is in no way a gateway to censoring the internet, it is simply allowing for harsher punishments and more accountability of people doing something illegal.
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This sets the precedent that it is okay for your ISP to play detective and spy on you to make sure you're not breaking the law. It's basically like having to let a police officer search your car every time you drive on the highway to get somewhere.You realize this law has literally nothing to do with censorship, right? It is in no way a gateway to censoring the internet, it is simply allowing for harsher punishments and more accountability of people doing something illegal.
The patriot act allowed you to be detained / questioned on suspicions of terrorist behavior.
This law only punishes people proven to be sharing copyrighted material illegally.
The two are no where near the same, don't try that sensationalist bullshit here.
But Wikey, ISPs aren't even law enforcement!It's basically like having to let a police officer search your car every time you drive on the highway to get somewhere.
No. From my understanding the complaint needs to be started with the copyright holder (Nintendo) and they have been completely capable of taking action before this. The reason they haven't is relatively simple albeit two-fold, we popularize their game and we don't make any money that they could be making.Yes, but how is this being done? Its being done by having ISPs policing the networks. It definitely isnt censorship, but its definitely a step towards one. Because this is another attempt to try and control the internet, gradually enough control will be granted to the government, to the point that they are able to pass an internet censorship bill.
Also to give an example, what if this bill evolves to a point, where say Serebii uploads pages from a paid magazine, and Nintendo freaks out about it. What if someone downloads Pokemon Online, and the ISP registers this as some sort of piracy of Pokemon. There are loads of ways it can affect people who are not even pirating any files
Im not for piracy at all though, it hurts small music artists more than large ones, since the large music artists make a lot of their money of concerts and stuff.
You're right. This is way worse than I sensationalized!But Wikey, ISPs aren't even law enforcement!
if the government put a ban tomorrow on wearing clothes, everyone would ignore it and (with the exception of a few spineless assholes) keep wearing clothes. and that's a very good thing.boo hoo it's going to be harder (or rather, more penalized) to break the law by pirating music.
seriously how is this a bad thing other than because you want to steal music, it has no other effect other than to punish people who are doing something illegal. All it is doing is upping the amount of enforcability that is going to happen, which is a good thing, seeing as how currently it's a law that the public by and large completely fucking ignores.
I don't know if pirating music / movies / games itself is a really bad thing to begin with. If someone has a huge collection of music at their fingertips they might discover some less-known band that they wouldn't have heard of without it. From there on they might go buy concert tickets, band apparel, or buy the music of which they downloaded in a different medium (vinyl or what have you). With movies, you may want to see what the director's style is before you go & purchase the rest of the movie. You can even buy movie posters & all the sorts. I have a hard time justifying games, but I figure most people don't have the know-how or whatever to pirate a game, burn it, & get their xbox to play it. They're probably not losing that much money in the long run.boo hoo it's going to be harder (or rather, more penalized) to break the law by pirating music.
seriously how is this a bad thing other than because you want to steal music, it has no other effect other than to punish people who are doing something illegal. All it is doing is upping the amount of enforcability that is going to happen, which is a good thing, seeing as how currently it's a law that the public by & large completely fucking ignores.